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Fair enough. I didn't really consider the moderation effort required. And you could stand to be a little less aggressive. I have no problem with the rules as they stand. It would be nice though if there were a way to still communicate with these users without being subjecting everyone to their community posts. But my concerns go further than LW.
I get why LW doesnt have an interest in being a free speech platform, but I still think it's better to be a good influence on people rather than shutting them out. Their bad ideas don't go away when we defederate and will probably even grow in momentum if left unchallenged. You shouldn't have to deal with them if you don't want to and their content need not be visible by default. I just think Lemmy needs options other than defederation. We risk recreating the siloed communities federation was meant to counter.
And it's not like these worst offenders don't deserve to be alienated, I just think it's inevitable that we will become used to defederation but and start doing it on a whim. Lemmy will become a sanitized environment devoid of anything coming close to contraversial. If this happens, it takes away the biggest advantage we have over Reddit, Twitter, etc. No important conversations will happen here, the population will fracture and dwindle, we will all return to Reddit.
I'm not really asking LW to change anything, I'm just saying there needs to be finer controls built into Lemmy that will prevent defederation becoming the default method of dealing with troublesome instances.
Know that when I said "If you disagree with this code, you are welcome to keep looking for other Lemmy instances" I was directly quoting the CoC.
If you want an overview of the instances we defederated with, and why, we keep the list updated here: https://gui.fediseer.com/instances/detail/lemmy.world