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how to block meta from mastodon (lemmy.world)
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[–] 13 points 3 years ago (7 children)

By all means block Meta instances if you want, but they have 3 billion users, they definitely don’t give a shit about a “competitor” with a few hundred thousand users.

If they don't give a shit then why do they add federation feature at all? It doesn't make sense.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    Right now it's only supported for Instagram accounts right? So slap in ActivityPub and you've got an already working way to extend your app. It's easy, it's fast development, and it's cheap. It makes tons of sense.

    Also, Meta and the rest of FAANG are a company of a bunch of nerds with a history of open sourcing software. This isn't some crazy play, this is completely normal for them.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Yeah and it’s also normal for them to act like sociopaths and shrug and say “sorry, this is just how capitalism works” when it gets exposed how cynically awful they been behaving.

    There is zero evidence ethics will be followed here, Silicon Valley has spent decades building a good argument the precise opposite will happen.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (4 children)

    What does ethics have to do with any of this? Like you said, it's all capitalism. The total amount of users in the fediverse is a rounding error on their 10-K. Why would they care about stealing the userbase?

    Corporations don't act ethically unless they can monetize it or they're regulated.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Counterpoint: it’s not about capturing the current audience so much as heading a threat off at the pass.

    I’m not going to argue way or other re: defederation. Just putting myself in their shoes and looking at the field they’re entering. They likely recognize there’s a brief window right now to capture twitter’s disaffected audience as they stumble while a nontrivial subset of those users are exploring open-source, non-corporate alternatives.

    It makes perfect sense for them to cast the widest net they can in this moment. And it also makes sense for them to try to stifle the non-corporate side before it has a chance to gain any solid footing.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    There are no users “exploring open source alternatives.” Have you seen the Lemmy signup flow? It’s a complete shitshow that probably turns away 95% of people to begin with.

    Facebook almost certainly doesn’t see Lemmy and Mastodon as a threat or competitor. They adopted ActivityPub because it’s nice, and they’ll move on as they need to scale, and Lemmy and Mastodon will continue to survive as they always have.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    What’s 95% of zero?

    Seriously though I am one person seeking open source alternatives and I came here because others showed me the way.

    The number is not zero, and the cultural moment is ripe for non-corporate options unless corporates recapture the audience before they’ve even lost them.

    That’s the crux of my perspective.

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