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UK's PM Sunak proposes raising smoking age every year to create 'smoke-free' generation (news.sky.com)
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[–] 7 points 3 years ago (6 children)

In universal healthcare countries the one's smoking are basically abusing the system as there is a very high chance they end up with some kind or respiratory or hearth issues sooner or later. Such illnesses are very costly to treat hence they are taking away from others. Contrary to let's say alcohol that most people consume but also majority is not alcoholic. Smokers are almost always junkies and they have issues quitting fags. Smoking is extremely addicting.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    I'm not very convinced by this argument. First your alcohol example is working against your point as alcohol costs billions in damages. Some sources argue that alcohol is very similar in costs:

    For example I'm reading that US CDC estimates 249B usd damage from alcohol and 300B from smoking so they are very much the same.

    That being said, my main argument would be that prohibition just doesn't work and it's so hard to determine lines. Should we ban excess calories like fast foods or just butter because obesity is by far the biggest expense and we know that food is extremely addictive. Policing every activity at this level seems impossible.

    We already have a solution for this burden - tax. You won't get any taxes if you ban smoking and still have to care for smokers.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Is this prohibition in the same way it is delivered in the past? Existing users continue to have a legal path of purchase whilst new potential addicts don't. I don't think it'll have the same effect as you are concerned about, at least at a much reduced rate.

    And just because there are other vices that are detrimental to our health doesn't mean there shouldn't be efforts to counter this one.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I dont think fast food works as a counter-example because it isnt addictive like cigarettes are. We can safely have butter, fast food and drinks like coke occasionally and just stop until the next time.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    In these cases it is very much "privitise the profits, socialise the costs" scenario. The tobacco companies reap the profits and the taxpayer foots the bill via the healthcare system.

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