The Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs.

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[–] 46 points 3 years ago (30 children)

It's so fucking cringe. I work in tech, I see how weirdly women get treated and I see their unusually high turnover rate. Early on I was told "women don't last long here" and it was very true, that woman in particular quit to do freelance work (good for her). Why can't women have a job fair? Men don't fucking need one, NEARLY ALL of the other tech job fairs are dominated by men.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I'm really being sincere, but why would men magically not need a job fair? They can also be unemployed and struggle to get a job. That's not a 2x specific issue.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Because men dominate the tech industry. It just doesn't make sense to hold one for men.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago

    Eh... I think it does, but for different reasons. The tech industry has a relatively high rate of unemployment. Job fairs would be good for everyone.

    I agree that women have unique issues in tech and a women-only job fair would be a good thing. I just think General-admission job fairs are useful now too.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago

    Eh... I think it does, but for different reasons. The tech industry has a relatively high rate of unemployment. Job fairs would be good for everyone.

    I agree that women have unique issues in tech and a women-only job fair would be a good thing. I just think General-admission job fairs are useful now too.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago*

    What’s worse is when you see workplaces that want more women for only the idea it will ‘bring up the standard’ like….I think there’s something telling about the culture alone if they need a specific gender to help understand better standards of working. I would hope they are hiring inclusively for more reasons than just ‘our standards are low cuz the men here are poo and we won’t confront them on it. We will leave it to women to mommy manage it for us. Know any women looking for a job?’

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  • [+] -44 points 3 years ago (21 children)

    If woman want a job fair they should create one that actually only allows women, but given no one seems to have a definition for women, it might be hard to do.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Way to be exactly the type of person they are referring to.

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  • [+] -17 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    what type of person who referred to?

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (14 children)

    Federal anti-discrimination laws disallow this. It has nothing to do with the "definition of women".

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  • [+] -11 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    which law prevents a private female only conference from happening? As far as I know, there are no such laws.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    Read The Fucking Article, that's the exact reason they allowed men at the conference in question: federal nondiscrimination laws

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    I'm saying I don't buy that reason. There are no laws (afaik) that prevent exactly what I described. Federal discrimination laws typically refer to employment or public places, not private events.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    This is an employment related event. Anti discrimination laws apply to applicants.

    If it was just a networking event, no problem, ban men

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (9 children)

    I don't believe there are any laws that make that illegal. There are plenty of black only recruiting events, there was one at my college. If you can find me a law that says this is illegal I will bite my tongue, but from what I can tell it applies to employers, not anything close to recruiting events.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    I swear to fucking christ

    Are you a lawyer? Because the legal team of this event made this decision

    I'm not citing case law to you just because you think you know better than a team of actual lawyers. Jesus.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (6 children)

    good lord, relax. he's obviously saying he thinks they should be permitted to have women only events.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (5 children)

    Sure. I agree. But they can't have women only hiring fairs. It's the law. They could be sued.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    we heard you the first 12 times, dude.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    Clearly not understanding though

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    we understand. the point is that it's shitty that it's illegal. it shouldn't be illegal to have a women only event.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    chill... just discussing how i feel about a topic on a discussion forum. not that serious, you're under no obligation to reply.

    This statement didn't come from lawyers btw. I suggest you look into non discrimination laws and youll see why i feel the way i do.

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