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Your big brain conservtive/capitalist takes will be laughed at (lemmy.world)
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[–] 60 points 3 years ago (26 children)

Why does everything need to be politicized? No one gives a flying fuck if you're a leftist, unless you're a Leftist and no one gives a fuck if you're a right winger unless you're a right winger. Jesus christ the US Politics are absolute fucking cancer.

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  • [+] 54 points 3 years ago (9 children)
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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    Guaranteeing that every individual has the same rights independently of their sex, sexual orientation, race, skin color and so on... Shouldn't be neither left nor right. It just should be. It's just common sense.

    There are plenty of another topic for the left vs right to debate. Leave identity politics out of it and just let people live like they want.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    It should be common sense. But it isn't. The Republican party platform in the US 4 years ago consisted of a single point: banning gay marriage. That was their entire party-wide goal for the last presidential election. No policies on taxes or anything else, just removing rights from people they don't like.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    "Leave identity politics out of it" you do realize the modern Democrat party revolves around playing victim and identity politics? They're not going to let it go now. Need more victims.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    I don’t understand that. What did Democrats do or say to make you claim they’re "revolving around playing victim and identity politics"? Could you give some examples of that behavior?

    I mean, maybe I am too far left or just too European, but from my POV it clearly looks as if it’s the rightwingers who are doing their part of identity politics by fighting the "woke" people vigorously.

    While Democrats just want minorities and disadvantaged groups to enjoy the same rights as everybody else. Which I would appreciate.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I wouldn't consider that a left-right issue. China's government would certainly be classed as leftist, but they engage in LGBTQ oppression. It's been getting better in some ways recently, but they're no friends to LGBTQ people.

    I usually put such issues somewhere along the line of socially liberal/progressive to social conservative.

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  • [–] 43 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Right wing violence will come whether you want to believe it's political or not.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Yet I see a lot more anti liberal rhetoric on here. Also these people getting off on wanting a civil war... because destabilizing a country always worked great.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago

    Irony: living in a country that has destabilized more countries than any in history and fucking those countries for generations. Meanwhile wanting destabilization at home. Lol.

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  • [–] 41 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Why does everything need to be politicized?

    Because everything is political or adjacent to it. Everything in this world is either impacted by or is a reflection of politics.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I mention this to my friends all the time. So many issues we're dealing with derives from politics, so of course discourse will always return to it.

    Money Rent/housing costs Grocery costs Stagnant wages Retirement

    School shootings Police brutality Systemic racism

    Medicine Insurance R/d for treatments Quality of life

    Etc. Etc.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    　School shootings Police brutality Systemic racism

    Those are issues that are relevant in YOUR region so why do I have to discuss them? Politics are regional and Lemmy is a worldwide space. The majority of Lemmy is from outside of the USA, yeah we can talk a bit about US politics but not all the damn time.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I find posts like this so confusing. Does politics, i.e.the policies organisations across the world implement to actively change the way the masses live not directly or indirectly affect your life? Whenever someone says something like this I just assume you're not within a marginalised group because there's no way you'd make an enlightened centrist post like this otherwise.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    It sure does but why do we have to bring up political topics (or rather: US politics) all the time? Whats the point in discussing politics (which are always regional) with people that dont even understand it or care (because I doubt you could give educated opinions on the politics of more than a handful of countries)...

    And then people like OP feel entitled to generalize all of the people using Lemmy from all over the world as "Leftists" just because some peoole with certain political views cant stop pushing every debate into a political direction.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Liberals and leftists exist elsewhere outside America. There is nothing about the original post that yells exclusivity to America.

    Everything has something to do with politics. People saying "stop shoving politics into everything" just don't like to he confronted with that fact, when some people are forced to confront that fact outside of political discourse every day. There are literally billions of people in poverty around the world due to the direct actions of some of the most powerful governments the world has ever seen. But you and a few people could not possibly even bear seeing a meme talking about Leftists and Liberals because that's too political hahaha what the fuck.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    This post was for (quoting OP) "berating [his] ideological opponents because they are losers". Because, (quoting OP) "to be taken seriosly offline [they] would need to present well-researched [...]　arguments". So they do it on Lemmy.

    In what world is this meme of any actual value? Generalizing Lemmy as leftist for their agenda, as was admitted in this case (what else could this meme be for?) is not in any way productive, is it?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago

    Most people (especially in the US) can't even define what they are IN FAVOR of politically. All they do is denigrate what they think they don't like, even when it is against their own best interest. Bunch of fucking lemmings we humans are, just waiting to be taken advantage of by the sharks.

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