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Oopsy daisies (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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[–] 65 points 3 years ago (16 children)

Absolutely fucking not. Waffen-SS members are war criminals not hapless stooges.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    That’s neither here nor there. The Canadian government’s complicity only implicates Canada and clears no one.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Just as there are such things as political prisoners, there are such things as political pardons. Judicial my ass; it was political.

    And just as before, whatever the politicians & pundits are raving is neither here nor there. The guy voluntarily joined the Waffen-SS Galicia Division.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah he volunteered to to be solider, so what? Being a solider is not the same thing as being a war criminal and the burden of proof still applies. War is messy and it is entirely possible that this division committed atrocities that haven't been proven but the mere possibility is not sufficient reason to label him a war criminal. You are de-meaning the term by doing so.

    Either you have specific evidence to support your charge or realize you are participating in sensationalism.

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  • [+] -17 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    You are painting an overly simplified picture. Look up Günter Grass if you don't believe me.

    TLDR: He non forcefully signed up for the SS, although disagreeing with the Nazis. Later he became a nobel prize winning author and member of the famous Group 47. In his publications he tries to get people to think for themselves - not exactly nazi doctrine.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Nazi apologia. It doesn’t matter how many books he wrote or how good they were.

    Here’s how I read it: His Nazi past wasn’t discovered until after receiving literary awards, which was embarrassing to the literati, so they tried to whitewash him.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    That smells like heey out of the 750.000 killing psychopaths, there were that one not absolutely bad person so let's not judge them too hastily.

    SS scum should rot in a damp prison cell for 1.000 years and then another 1.000.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    No.

    We should judge the ones who are left with extreme prejudice and they should desperately be explaining themselves and proving that they actually sabotaged the SS and Nazi empire from within, if they are to regain any humanity.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    We shouldn't judge anyone with prejudice; that's in the word. We must treat all people as humans; not doing that is a Nazi idea. We should treat signing up with the Nazis as evidence, and act accordingly to prevent Nazis from running around doing and saying Nazi things.

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