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[–] 34 points 3 years ago (3 children)

Great news! Mullvad is great even if their account security makes you do a double take

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  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I assume they mean there are no account credentials. When you "create" an account on their website, you'll be given a random account number, and no password.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah this is what I meant. It feels so wrong but also makes complete sense.

    I think I've gotten used to the "safety" of setting my own password and always typing it with my email or username.

    But practically speaking they're very similar and Mullvad's is arguably safer

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    What's to stop somebody guessing your account number and gaining access? (Honest question)

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    There are lots of possible account numbers, much more than there are accounts. So there is a very small chance that you will guess an active paid account.

    And if you do, there's not much you can get out of it. There's no personal information tied to the account.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I am surprised that they don’t provide UUIDv4’s, feels like what they provide is somewhat guessable

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2017/6/20/mullvads-account-numbers-get-longer-and-safer/

    As they outline here, there are ~9 quadrillion possible keys, needing around 5.5 million guesses to find an account. I think they hit a nice middleground between decent entropy and still having a number you can memorize (like a credit card).

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    people memorize their credit card numbers?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Nowadays, not so much. In the previous decades before password managers, card vaulting, apple pay and so on: yes, if you were typing it in or writing it on forms frequently, it wasn't uncommon to just memorize it.

    My point though was that there is a limit to our ability to remember long and random alphanumeric strings, and I find credit card numbers to be that limit. UUIDs are longer and have a much bigger character set.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    To be fair, would it matter if someone got access to your account key? There isn't really any data on your account is there (isn't that the point)? It'd just let you connect to the VPN

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