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[+] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 88 points 3 years ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 years ago (2 children) While mostly true, there are ways to preserve ram if the device is confiscated. Your local PD likely couldn’t pull it off, but if one of the larger abbreviation agencies were to get involved, data on RAM isn’t a huge hurdle. Assuming no one flips the power switch, at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] reluctantpornaccount@reddthat.com 21 points 3 years ago Yeah, freezing and dumping RAM is a well known attack, even happening at some airports with laptops. But it still requires very recently powered ram, basically still in operation before extraction. It's a big step toward security at least. permalink fedilink source parent [+] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 years ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) There are devices that allow moving and confiscating computers without powering them off. The rest are true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's assuming those computers weren't already powered off first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sure, but how often does that happen to servers running 24/7? They'd have to set up some sort of dead man's switch, movement sensors, or something. It's unlikely they'd get a day's notice that the servers are going to be confiscated for forensic analysis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) How long do you think it takes to broadcast a network wide shutdown command over the management network? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago How long do you think would you have? Also, any manual action on your part would be obstruction, while an automated system could be defended as anti-theft protection. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 years ago (2 children) While mostly true, there are ways to preserve ram if the device is confiscated. Your local PD likely couldn’t pull it off, but if one of the larger abbreviation agencies were to get involved, data on RAM isn’t a huge hurdle. Assuming no one flips the power switch, at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] reluctantpornaccount@reddthat.com 21 points 3 years ago Yeah, freezing and dumping RAM is a well known attack, even happening at some airports with laptops. But it still requires very recently powered ram, basically still in operation before extraction. It's a big step toward security at least. permalink fedilink source parent [+] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 years ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reluctantpornaccount@reddthat.com 21 points 3 years ago Yeah, freezing and dumping RAM is a well known attack, even happening at some airports with laptops. But it still requires very recently powered ram, basically still in operation before extraction. It's a big step toward security at least. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 years ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) There are devices that allow moving and confiscating computers without powering them off. The rest are true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's assuming those computers weren't already powered off first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sure, but how often does that happen to servers running 24/7? They'd have to set up some sort of dead man's switch, movement sensors, or something. It's unlikely they'd get a day's notice that the servers are going to be confiscated for forensic analysis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) How long do you think it takes to broadcast a network wide shutdown command over the management network? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago How long do you think would you have? Also, any manual action on your part would be obstruction, while an automated system could be defended as anti-theft protection. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's assuming those computers weren't already powered off first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sure, but how often does that happen to servers running 24/7? They'd have to set up some sort of dead man's switch, movement sensors, or something. It's unlikely they'd get a day's notice that the servers are going to be confiscated for forensic analysis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) How long do you think it takes to broadcast a network wide shutdown command over the management network? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago How long do you think would you have? Also, any manual action on your part would be obstruction, while an automated system could be defended as anti-theft protection. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Sure, but how often does that happen to servers running 24/7? They'd have to set up some sort of dead man's switch, movement sensors, or something. It's unlikely they'd get a day's notice that the servers are going to be confiscated for forensic analysis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) How long do you think it takes to broadcast a network wide shutdown command over the management network? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago How long do you think would you have? Also, any manual action on your part would be obstruction, while an automated system could be defended as anti-theft protection. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) How long do you think it takes to broadcast a network wide shutdown command over the management network? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago How long do you think would you have? Also, any manual action on your part would be obstruction, while an automated system could be defended as anti-theft protection. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago How long do you think would you have? Also, any manual action on your part would be obstruction, while an automated system could be defended as anti-theft protection. permalink fedilink source parent