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[–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago (11 children) Only if you keep all the stuff you produce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] coltorl@programming.dev 3 points 3 years ago (10 children) Oh cool, socialism is when you own a means of production but only keep some of the produced goods. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago (8 children) If you keep more than you need, yes. Socialism is not about hoarding wealth especially in the form of necessary goods. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] aport@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) Who gets to decide how much I need? Some juche thug in the capital wearing a bunch of fake military ribbons? Sign me up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago* (2 children) IDK, maybe we could decide such things similar to how we're having this conversation and we're able to upvote on what's being said. Totally unprecedented I know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aport@programming.dev 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Do you think there's voting involved in a command economy? My brother in Marx, that's not how any of this works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 years ago Me: how about democracy in the work place? Reactionaries: but what about Stalin? Me: did I stutter? permalink fedilink source parent [–] coltorl@programming.dev -3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Ok, thanks for clarifying that the internet still has no idea what socialism is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) How is private ownership of farmland socialism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] coltorl@programming.dev 1 point 3 years ago Good question. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aux@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago Yeah, socialism is about slave labour. permalink fedilink source parent [–] brainrein@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago Socialism is when you don’t have to do alienated work. And when noone else has to. Of course the productivity will be higher if you share the means of production with others. But it’s perfectly fine to work on your own too and harvest the fruit of your work. As you know, nobody gets rich by his own hands work, but you can get along. Capitalist exploitation starts when other people work for you and when you take the added value for your own benefits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] coltorl@programming.dev 3 points 3 years ago (10 children) Oh cool, socialism is when you own a means of production but only keep some of the produced goods. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago (8 children) If you keep more than you need, yes. Socialism is not about hoarding wealth especially in the form of necessary goods. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] aport@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) Who gets to decide how much I need? Some juche thug in the capital wearing a bunch of fake military ribbons? Sign me up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago* (2 children) IDK, maybe we could decide such things similar to how we're having this conversation and we're able to upvote on what's being said. Totally unprecedented I know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aport@programming.dev 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Do you think there's voting involved in a command economy? My brother in Marx, that's not how any of this works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 years ago Me: how about democracy in the work place? Reactionaries: but what about Stalin? Me: did I stutter? permalink fedilink source parent [–] coltorl@programming.dev -3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Ok, thanks for clarifying that the internet still has no idea what socialism is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) How is private ownership of farmland socialism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] coltorl@programming.dev 1 point 3 years ago Good question. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aux@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago Yeah, socialism is about slave labour. permalink fedilink source parent [–] brainrein@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago Socialism is when you don’t have to do alienated work. And when noone else has to. Of course the productivity will be higher if you share the means of production with others. But it’s perfectly fine to work on your own too and harvest the fruit of your work. As you know, nobody gets rich by his own hands work, but you can get along. Capitalist exploitation starts when other people work for you and when you take the added value for your own benefits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 5 points 3 years ago (8 children) If you keep more than you need, yes. Socialism is not about hoarding wealth especially in the form of necessary goods. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] aport@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) Who gets to decide how much I need? Some juche thug in the capital wearing a bunch of fake military ribbons? Sign me up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago* (2 children) IDK, maybe we could decide such things similar to how we're having this conversation and we're able to upvote on what's being said. Totally unprecedented I know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aport@programming.dev 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Do you think there's voting involved in a command economy? My brother in Marx, that's not how any of this works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 years ago Me: how about democracy in the work place? Reactionaries: but what about Stalin? Me: did I stutter? permalink fedilink source parent [–] coltorl@programming.dev -3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Ok, thanks for clarifying that the internet still has no idea what socialism is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) How is private ownership of farmland socialism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] coltorl@programming.dev 1 point 3 years ago Good question. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aux@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago Yeah, socialism is about slave labour. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aport@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (3 children) Who gets to decide how much I need? Some juche thug in the capital wearing a bunch of fake military ribbons? Sign me up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago* (2 children) IDK, maybe we could decide such things similar to how we're having this conversation and we're able to upvote on what's being said. Totally unprecedented I know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aport@programming.dev 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Do you think there's voting involved in a command economy? My brother in Marx, that's not how any of this works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 years ago Me: how about democracy in the work place? Reactionaries: but what about Stalin? Me: did I stutter? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago* (2 children) IDK, maybe we could decide such things similar to how we're having this conversation and we're able to upvote on what's being said. Totally unprecedented I know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aport@programming.dev 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Do you think there's voting involved in a command economy? My brother in Marx, that's not how any of this works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 years ago Me: how about democracy in the work place? Reactionaries: but what about Stalin? Me: did I stutter? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aport@programming.dev 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Do you think there's voting involved in a command economy? My brother in Marx, that's not how any of this works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 years ago Me: how about democracy in the work place? Reactionaries: but what about Stalin? Me: did I stutter? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 years ago Me: how about democracy in the work place? Reactionaries: but what about Stalin? Me: did I stutter? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] coltorl@programming.dev -3 points 3 years ago (2 children) Ok, thanks for clarifying that the internet still has no idea what socialism is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) How is private ownership of farmland socialism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] coltorl@programming.dev 1 point 3 years ago Good question. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) How is private ownership of farmland socialism? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] coltorl@programming.dev 1 point 3 years ago Good question. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world -4 points 3 years ago Yeah, socialism is about slave labour. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brainrein@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago Socialism is when you don’t have to do alienated work. And when noone else has to. Of course the productivity will be higher if you share the means of production with others. But it’s perfectly fine to work on your own too and harvest the fruit of your work. As you know, nobody gets rich by his own hands work, but you can get along. Capitalist exploitation starts when other people work for you and when you take the added value for your own benefits. permalink fedilink source parent