▲ 332 ▼ Centre Party (thelemmy.club) submitted 6 hours ago* by inari@piefed.zip to c/wikipedia@lemmy.world 45 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_%28Netherlands%29
[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 109 points 5 hours ago (13 children) "I'm neither right not left" = far-right. Always. permalink fedilink source hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] cabbage@piefed.social 15 points 4 hours ago Some green parties tried the same nonsense for a while, though I think they all admit to being left by now. The argument was that they'd work independently of party blocks with climate as the only issue. Of course right wing politics are always an environmental disaster, but sometimes you would see unusual constellations in local politics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] inari@piefed.zip [S] 34 points 5 hours ago (7 children) Yep, it's called Fish Hook Theory: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Gladaed@feddit.org 42 points 5 hours ago (3 children) Note that there is no such theory outside of Internet slang. There is no merit in it. Just as horseshoe theory is without merit. There are complex, underlying causes for it making so much sense, but do not be baited by comfort. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cowfodder@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 hour ago (1 child) The only part of horseshoe theory that tracks is that if you go far enough left you get your guns back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Gladaed@feddit.org 5 points 1 hour ago The part that tracks is that authoritarians exist orthogonal to left/right. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yucandu@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago "Horseshoe theory" is the idea that I don't really care if I'm being killed by Hitler or Mao if I'm being killed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 10 points 5 hours ago* (2 children) The main difference between "neither left nor right" and far-right is hypocrisy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 hours ago* (1 child) Or sometimes denial permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago Don’t forget idiocy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DekSomBoon@lemmy.today 1 point 2 hours ago (3 children) Wasn't fascism originally about being neither right nor left, but then it got sort of absorbed (or bought out) by the right to combat the left? Thats atleast how I've understood it, and of course there is so much more to fascism than that but thats just how i'd summarize it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] saimen@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children) I only know that the Nazis presented themselves as the "third way" between communism and capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 28 minutes ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm That didn't last long. permalink fedilink source parent [–] azimir@lemmy.ml 1 point 30 minutes ago Just like the AfD in Germany today. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cabbage@piefed.social 15 points 4 hours ago Some green parties tried the same nonsense for a while, though I think they all admit to being left by now. The argument was that they'd work independently of party blocks with climate as the only issue. Of course right wing politics are always an environmental disaster, but sometimes you would see unusual constellations in local politics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] inari@piefed.zip [S] 34 points 5 hours ago (7 children) Yep, it's called Fish Hook Theory: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Gladaed@feddit.org 42 points 5 hours ago (3 children) Note that there is no such theory outside of Internet slang. There is no merit in it. Just as horseshoe theory is without merit. There are complex, underlying causes for it making so much sense, but do not be baited by comfort. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cowfodder@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 hour ago (1 child) The only part of horseshoe theory that tracks is that if you go far enough left you get your guns back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Gladaed@feddit.org 5 points 1 hour ago The part that tracks is that authoritarians exist orthogonal to left/right. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yucandu@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago "Horseshoe theory" is the idea that I don't really care if I'm being killed by Hitler or Mao if I'm being killed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 10 points 5 hours ago* (2 children) The main difference between "neither left nor right" and far-right is hypocrisy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 hours ago* (1 child) Or sometimes denial permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago Don’t forget idiocy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 42 points 5 hours ago (3 children) Note that there is no such theory outside of Internet slang. There is no merit in it. Just as horseshoe theory is without merit. There are complex, underlying causes for it making so much sense, but do not be baited by comfort. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cowfodder@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 hour ago (1 child) The only part of horseshoe theory that tracks is that if you go far enough left you get your guns back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Gladaed@feddit.org 5 points 1 hour ago The part that tracks is that authoritarians exist orthogonal to left/right. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yucandu@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago "Horseshoe theory" is the idea that I don't really care if I'm being killed by Hitler or Mao if I'm being killed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cowfodder@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 hour ago (1 child) The only part of horseshoe theory that tracks is that if you go far enough left you get your guns back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Gladaed@feddit.org 5 points 1 hour ago The part that tracks is that authoritarians exist orthogonal to left/right. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 5 points 1 hour ago The part that tracks is that authoritarians exist orthogonal to left/right. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago "Horseshoe theory" is the idea that I don't really care if I'm being killed by Hitler or Mao if I'm being killed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 10 points 5 hours ago* (2 children) The main difference between "neither left nor right" and far-right is hypocrisy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 hours ago* (1 child) Or sometimes denial permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago Don’t forget idiocy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 hours ago* (1 child) Or sometimes denial permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago Don’t forget idiocy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DekSomBoon@lemmy.today 1 point 2 hours ago (3 children) Wasn't fascism originally about being neither right nor left, but then it got sort of absorbed (or bought out) by the right to combat the left? Thats atleast how I've understood it, and of course there is so much more to fascism than that but thats just how i'd summarize it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] saimen@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children) I only know that the Nazis presented themselves as the "third way" between communism and capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 28 minutes ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm That didn't last long. permalink fedilink source parent [–] azimir@lemmy.ml 1 point 30 minutes ago Just like the AfD in Germany today. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] saimen@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children) I only know that the Nazis presented themselves as the "third way" between communism and capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 28 minutes ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm That didn't last long. permalink fedilink source parent [–] azimir@lemmy.ml 1 point 30 minutes ago Just like the AfD in Germany today. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 28 minutes ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm That didn't last long. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 1 point 30 minutes ago Just like the AfD in Germany today. permalink fedilink source parent