I agree. "The cloud" is just the same shit but someone else is running it and it has a web based UI. There's also ways to make libreoffice collaborative too hiw m365 office is. We don't need it.

I called this over a decade ago. Embrace, extend, extinguish, now all the prices hike what seems like quarterly or biannually. Such a joke.

Sure, and maybe even some kind of suvversion system could lock one user out while the other is doing work, to avoid the kinds of conflicts that we're talking about here.

All of that is a hard sell versus the experience of dropping into a document and seeing three cursors all entering data collaboratively, a la Google Sheets.

And I'm writing this to someone that's trying to make myself at home using Grid raft, the vibecoded AI Slop Excel. If I had to share documents mid-production with anyone else at all, I would need something cloud-based.

But we used to have them too.