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Flock is catching flak. Experts say other police surveillance tools are more worrisome (www.npr.org)
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[–] 7 points 4 days ago (7 children)

This might be a good place for you to itemize the other surveillance tools people should be talking to their local elected officials about.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 days ago (6 children)

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    That's my point no list will be good enough. Although I did include another example most would be familiar to illustrate there are other issues...

    We need to fight against the concept of constant warrantless surveillance. Not just what methods are used or even thought of today.

    If we banned every existing method, everyone will try to find new ones. Then we'd have to wait for those to be massive problems before enough people care

    Make it against surveillance in general, and we don't even have to make new catchy slogans.

    Anything else is playing a game designed for us to lose.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 days ago* (5 children)

    So what's the strategy besides just being upset on the internet?

    The reason the fight against Flock is working is because people have something tangible to go to council meetings and target.

    Even with that it took several years to get our community to turn against Flock and get our village to cancel their contract and have the cameras removed. Trumps goons actually ended up succeeding where we couldn't.

    If you're going to tell the people actually getting shit done they're doing it wrong you should offer more than just criticism.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    If you’re going to tell the people actually getting shit done they’re doing it wrong you should offer more than just criticism.

    I've said it multiple times ..

    We need to fight against the concept of constant warrantless surveillance.

    I don't know what's so hard to understand about that, and frankly can't think of an easier way to explain it.

    I think you're just gonna have to accept you can't understand that, and I'll accept I'm not able to explain basic concepts to you.

    It is what it is. Best of luck.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    How about you share the strategies you have executed at council meetings to achieve this goal? And you can share what the solution to the problem looked like in the end.

    That way we can all try to emulate your success.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Noooooononono.... you don't understand, they want you to formulate a strategy so they can steal it from you and claim it's theirs for future arguments! Silly person you!

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