Commie Blocs (thelemmy.club)
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[–] [S] 10 points 16 hours ago (8 children)

“A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon — authoritarian means, if such there be at all; and if the victorious party does not want to have fought in vain, it must maintain this rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionists. Would the Paris Commune have lasted a single day if it had not made use of this authority of the armed people against the bourgeois? Should we not, on the contrary, reproach it for not having used it freely enough?”

― Frederick Engels

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  • [+] -10 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

    Is there a real world example of the bourgeois specifically calling revolutionairies authoritarian, or is that limited to theory?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 hours ago*

    Cuba, China, Vietnam, USSR, DPRK, Soviet Afghanistan (The one where women weren't slaves, which the US overthrew in favour of poppy-growing pedophiles), East Germany, Nelson Mandela, Venezuela, Chile, the list goes on. Similarly: Countries that do not have governments, they have "regimes". They do not have Vice-presidents or deputies, they have "hand-picked successors".

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

    Western media regularly calls China and DPRK authoritarian.

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  • [+] -10 points 15 hours ago* (3 children)

    Those are governments/countries and not at all what I'm talking about. I'm talking about an organization of people attempting a revolution on their own government.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

    Oh, they cultivate anarchists domestically to do that.

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  • [+] -8 points 15 hours ago (1 child)

    Define what you mean by anarchist, because we may have very different definitions of the word.

    When I say anarchist, I mean those who believe in the philosophical ideals of anarchism, which could manifest in many different forms, but all have one common thread, being having the ideal of the abolition of heirarchy in society (which makes something like AnCap not anarchy despite its name).

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