Researchers looked at pain around the world and across the human lifespan, finding steepest rise happens before age 55

Women report suffering more pain than men, a major new global study has found.

That was true for all types of pain the researchers measured, and comes amid continuing concern about the gender pain gap, which means women are less likely to be prescribed the pain relief they need.

Researchers from all over the world carried out “one of the largest harmonization efforts in pain epidemiology to date”. Data was collected from more than 6 million people from 118 countries from 1990 to 2025, and included people from five years old to more than 100.

The research, published in Nature Medicine, looked at how pain, as the leading global cause of disability, was distributed both around the world and across the human lifespan.

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[–] 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

What evidence do you have that women, as a group, are more likely to over-report pain?

I have absolutely 0 evidence for that because I never made that claim at all. That would an incredibly dumb claim to make. You're arguing in bad faith on behalf of a divisive culture war and putting words in mouth.

You accuse the Guardian of engaging in gender war clickbait

I accuse the Guardian of engaging in click bait in general. That's a significant portion of their business model.

denying the findings of a scientific study?

This post is not the findings of a scientific study. It's a headline ans an entertainment article which is vaguely referencing an actual scientific study in an actual academic journal. That paper is titled "Global and regional reference curves for pain across the lifespan in 6.1 million individuals in 118 countries", not "Womrn Suffer More Pain Than Men..."

Doesn’t seem scientific to me.

I never made any claims as to the "scientific" quality of this, and i'm really confused as to why you are suddenly focusing so hard on the word "science". FYI- tossing the word "science" around is usually not very effective at convincing people you are right.

Out of curiosity, would you also say this about a study with men and social isolation (another entirely self reported metric)

This is an oddly phrased question but I'll try to read between the lines at what you're getting at here. "loneliness" is a far more abstract concept to even try to measure, so any results will be even more subject to the limitations of surveys than pain. It would be far more accurate to state "X group reports loneliness at a higher rate than Y group" rather than staying "X group experiences more loneliness than Y". The whole point i'm making is that the word "experiences" is different from the word "reports".

"Male loneliness" is just "loneliness" with more gender war spin applied to it. Loneliness is reportedly increasing across all genders, age groups, and pretty much any other way you slice it in countries with broad access to the internet.

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  • [–] -5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

    Were you aware studies consist of more than a title?

    Drawing on individual-level data from 1.2−4.9 million distinct participants per pain site, pain prevalence varied markedly across anatomical sites and followed distinct age trajectories by site and sex (Fig. 2). Overall prevalence ranged from 2% for facial pain to 40% for back pain. Women consistently reported higher prevalence than men across all 11 sites

    Trying to spin this with philosophy about how knowable another person’s pain is frankly a horseshit response to a finding about a group that is taken less seriously in medical settings about the legitimacy of their pain.

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  • [–] 6 points 16 hours ago

    Once again, the actual academics in the study use the phrasing "reported" rather than "experienced". Which is what is said is the better way to do it. The scientific paper is correct, the Guardian is sensationalist.

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  • [–] 5 points 17 hours ago

    Right, the study reports this correctly. The article does not.

    Implying a point is incorrect because it is philosophical makes no sense, as you said that's just going "nuh uh" and if there is something specifically wrong you should be able to point it out.

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