Bos has two daughters, with a third due in January. At the grocery store, five items cost as much as a full cart once did. And on Wednesday, Bos and nearly 1,400 other people were laid off from their jobs at what had been the Navistar truck factory in southwestern Ohio.

Asked how many times he had voted for Trump, Bos held up three tattooed fingers. But he said he’s done with the president.

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[–] 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

I see a lot of people like this being treated with total contempt, which is your right, but a few things to keep in mind.

  1. Please remember 70% of voters are not Democrat. Democrats are 30% of voters, Republicans 30% of voters, and Independents are 40% of voters. Insulting and celebrating the hardships and deaths of those who don't agree with you is a very bad look, and won't convince anyone that your minority party (Democrats) is the cure.

  2. Very few people are actually informed. Their entire waking life can be their job and children. Spare time is spent in non-political activities, like watching a goofy show. Many people are juggling multiple jobs and don't have a lot of spare time to research politics or history. Maybe zero time. So they go with their gut. (this is often wrong, but remains true). Make it easy for their gut.

  3. Keep in mind that you require independent voters to win every federal election. Would you like to win an election? Then you better get some Independent votes. Insulting and humiliating others does absolutely nothing for you. You could be totally right, your anger might be well founded, but it doesn't help you.

  4. Do you agree that there are a significant amount of stupid people? These stupid people don't like being called stupid, and take this all very seriously. You want the votes of stupid people. Would you like stupid people to vote for your party? Spending your days mocking and insulting anonymously can be a lot of fun, but it's no way to WIN.

This is a big election upcoming, go out and vote! ... and if you're up for it, maybe try to be kind to a voter or three. It can only help your cause. Contempt hurts you.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 hours ago*

    Agree overall but I gotta push back on your stats here. There are about 1.5x as many registered Democrats as there are registered Republicans in this country, and fewer centrists/independents than either group. American politics being super polarized means there aren’t very many centrists anymore, like at all. Literally the only reason Republicans ever win anything is voter suppression, nothing about their program is particularly popular amongst Americans.

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  • [–] 10 points 17 hours ago (1 child)

    I do not care about centrists, whether they want to say they are independents or whatever they want to go with. If the lack of fucks I have for them sends them to the right, they were gonba vote that way all along.

    A lot of people voted for Trump knowing what he would do, but they didn't think it would affect them. And if trump would "fix" things for them, they will go back to being happy pigs while watching others suffer. This was always about owning the libs, anyway.

    They had a taste of Trump 1.0 and they still voted for Trump 2.0. That second or third time wasn't a mistake. They knew what he was and they said they were ok with a moronic rapist pedo bully with narcissistic tendencies to having the nuke codes. People like this are not good people and I'm not going to sugarcoat it for them. They will vote red no matter how much you lick their boots, so fuck that.

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  • [–] -1 points 16 hours ago*

    It's okay for you to not care about them.

    But, don't be surprised when they don't care about you.

    First, you must learn that centrists and independents are two different things. Independent is an even bigger tent than the D party, it includes centrists within, but includes everybody else, too, like socialists. They're not centrists, don't be ridiculous.

    Next, you must learn that If you don't serve the interests of that 40% of voters, you will lose. Their priority one interest is one that we all share, all 100% of us have this exact same interest. Money. We all need money in the USA. It's our common denominator.

    You're outnumbered and doing the rookie thing, and gotta up those numbers. Hostility is not your friend. Be honest... if you want to sell something, you don't insult the buyer, do you? You don't have to sugarcoat or lick their boots or anything.

    Do the math. If the 40% of independents were centrists or red voters, you'd never win any election, ever. But you do win elections, because they're not centrists or red voters. Come on now

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