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Sure, Mr. Jackson. Just give us a moment to retcon some stuff. (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 13 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Ah, I see you too have been sucked into the hema YouTube rabbit hole. I would take self-described medieval martial arts experts opining on science fantasy with a grain of salt.

Like your reasoning is fine and the fights probably should be more fencing-like, but we also have to consider that Jedi are not normal beings. There's a lot going on invisibly in those fights, like how they're channeling the force into all their actions as well as experiencing a kind of prescience. So it begs the question, what does a fight look like with that kind of meta?

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  • [–] 1 point 22 hours ago (1 child)

    I haven't seen anything about light sabers on HEMA, but I have watched a little bit of it. But, even before that, I thought light saber fights looked stupid after having watched olympic fencing.

    So it begs the question, what does a fight look like with that kind of meta?

    Whatever the director decides the audience will like best. Yeah, you can handwave away anything if you just use some mysterious force stuff. Maybe you only have ultra-quick reactions if you are in mortal danger, so if you're beyond the range of the other guy's light saber you can't act/react as quickly.

    Still, I just prefer it when a sci-fi / fantasy author fully thinks through a weapon, its implications, etc. and something interesting falls out of that analysis, rather than "rule of cool" stuff that then has to be retconned with something ridiculous.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago

    I was imagining something more like, "Okay, I know they're going to make this move, so I'll counter it with this move. But they know I'll do that, so they'll be countering my counter, so now I have to do something even more unexpected!"

    And also bearing that prescience element in mind, is an ostensibly more dangerous maneuver the riskier one, if your forethought knows the safer play is guaranteed to go badly?

    Or like another analogy - if you watch chess content, you know there's a lot that revolves around ai systems now days. In some cases these systems have been shown to make moves that appear to border on blunders, but in fact turn out to be crucial for crushing the competition.

    Also if you watch Star Wars lore dump videos, they talk a lot about how that invisible stuff is depicted more in the books. Each of the lightsaber forms comes with their own philosophy and some kind of trance-like state they go into. Force users basically all get spiritually high while they're fighting, so maybe that's the explanation - they're just a bunch of adrenaline junkies.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Ah, I see you too have been sucked into the hema YouTube rabbit hole.

    There’s a lot going on invisibly in those fights

    this is one of the funnier interactions I've seen on lemmy. 'you can't see it, but there's a whole bloop blorp whiz patang freeowww goin on that justifies the goofy interaction of plasma beams that should just pass right through each other'

    I grew up reading xwing books other fantasy, and sw as fantasy works better. No disrespect, just found the distinctions hilarious.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Just sayin. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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