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NAziTO doing Nazi things LMBO (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 11 points 1 day ago (10 children)

the difference is in why they're bombing and what they're bombing -- nato/ukraine are bombing the same way the us is bombing iran.

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  • [–] 1 point 58 minutes ago

    Big difference is that one is acting in legitimate self-defense, and has been forced to do so by an Imperialist neighbor who not only invaded them, but indiscriminately bombs civilian neighborhoods. You know, like the US did to Iran.

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  • [–] 0 points 23 hours ago (8 children)

    And yet China manages to take the high road with Taiwan, Japan, India, etc.

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  • [–] 10 points 20 hours ago* (2 children)

    The difference is not a matter of moral fiber but strategic positioning. The western part of Russia is surrounded by NATO countries over land borders. The capitalist bloc simply can't threaten China in the same way, and if they could then we would be seeing a similar response.

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago (1 child)

    China made trade groups with their regional rivals, so no, we do not see a similar response. China's response is rooted in win-win diplomacy that improves the material conditions of all parties involved. It is less a moral calculation and more a material one that creates a moral authority.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

    Russia was trading (on preferrential terms) with Europe and on especially preferrential terms with Ukraine before the West decided to put up Nazis in power in Ukraine, who then immediately started shelling their eastern population for being too Russian and the highest level politicians literally saying "your children will be hiding in the basement while ours go to school".

    Then Euros voluntarily cut themselves off from that fountain of wealth in hopes of getting ALL of it through war.

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  • [–] 10 points 23 hours ago (1 child)

    China is the factory of the world, and even then they're constantly told they're bad, and that they should be destroyed, etc. The difference is that they're the most industrialized and well organized country out there so they can call the bluff.

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  • [–] 1 point 21 hours ago

    Yes and that is a winning strategy. As another ml account highlighted, war with the global north did not end well for the USSR, which comparatively speaking was much more a peer in terms of power than the current Russia. China's strategy is the one that recognizes that the tactics available flow down stream from material conditions.

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  • [–] 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    madelinte pendelton postulated that china's foreign relations strategy is to avoid war at all costs with the global north since they saw how they strangled the soviet union into non-existence and it explains why they're willing to accept all the pain and simply walk away from all of their investments in latin america despite having the power to push back like the united states does.

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  • [–] 4 points 22 hours ago (1 child)

    Isn't Brazil part of BRICS? Their strategy isn't just to avoid war, they are building soft power at a time when the USA is burning goodwill for short term gain (though with Iran the only gains seem to be oil profits).

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  • [–] 7 points 21 hours ago

    it is part of the brics, but the united states and isreal have been throwing their weight around in latin-american to reverse the soft power gains that china has made by rigging the electronic voting systems and the election in brazil is already 50/50.

    that's why brazil banned american "election officials" from entering their country a few days ago and the americans hit back w sanctions and obstructing the election campaign on facebook and other social media platforms.

    their goal is to get bolsonaro's son elected so that they can isolate mexico and totally reverse the leftwards shift that latin-america has been going towards for the last 20-ish years.

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