We had been warned of trouble looming at a show in Fairfax, Va., a conservative suburb outside Washington, D.C. The gig was at the Patriot Center at George Mason University. George Mason, a father of the Bill of Rights, refused to sign the Declaration of Independence because it didn’t guarantee enough rights and freedoms. (Were he still alive, he’d be cast out of Virginia; although its state slogan is “Virginia Is For Lovers,” in 1994, Virginia had an anti-sodomy law.) The promoter told Green Day in advance that they wouldn’t allow us to play, that we were inappropriate; Green Day’s response to the promoter was that if we didn’t play, they wouldn’t play.

The promoter backed down, but when we arrived, he pulled me aside for a lecture. In a friendly-yet-stern way, he said our material was too mature for Green Day’s young audiences. He said that there would be eight-to-12-year-olds in the crowd. I asked why he was worried about our lyrics and not Green Day’s, which also have some references that might not be suitable. And who were these kids, anyway? What parents were letting their kids go to concerts so young? I told him, if they’re that young, much of what we sing about is going to go right over their heads; they won’t get it. But they’ll know they saw a gay band, and it will get them talking one way or the other. To us, that would be a victory, meaning we’ve infiltrated Pat Robertson country. This guy kept saying things like he had a lesbian sister, that he was for gay rights, but not in these circumstances. He said he was dreading the day-after phone calls from parents. I told him I had the right to sing about it, kids had the right not to be censored, and what we sang about was part of the world we live in. Virginia was a sodomy-law state; the discrimination was written into state law. To counter years of hetero propaganda these kids had heard—and would continue to hear—a few bad words and risqué songs wouldn’t do them any harm. This discussion went in circles for 15 minutes, until I finally told him it was a waste of my time. When we played, the reception was mixed but more supportive than I’d feared; it was the only show we played with Green Day in the South.

The apex of that tour was a gig at Madison Square Garden. The show was a multi-artist extravaganza: faux-alternative station Z-100’s Christmas bash. The lineup from top to bottom: Green Day, Hole, Weezer, Melissa Etheridge, Bon Jovi (gag, choke, splutter, barf), Sheryl Crow, Toad The Wet Sprocket, the Indigo Girls and us. When Green Day found out Bon Jovi was on the bill, they were fit to be tied. This was everything we had ever fought against. This was an alternative station? Z-100 tried to throw us off the bill, but Green Day said they wouldn’t do the show if we didn’t get to play. We’ll always be grateful for the many times they stood up for us that year.

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[–] 66 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (7 children)

Never been the biggest Green Day fan, but being an ally back then wasn't quite so accepted and it wasn't like they were going to get a pat on the back from social media from this.

Also worth mentioning that Etheridge had recently come out at this time. And it wasn't like she was some punk artist, you could find her getting plays on country stations. That could have been professional suicide at that time.

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  • [–] 41 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

    I don't think people remember how rampent homophobia was in the 90's. Coaches called the kids gay slurs, news papers gleefully posting about politicans picked up in rest stop raids, people still thinking you could catch aids from touching or kissing. The little victories about gay characters on tv, or bands with queer coded songs must have been so empowering to kids who didnt have anywhere else to turn. The liberal position in most places was the don't ask dont tell policy, and even if they accepted you, they'd tell you to keep your mouth shut about it because it was dangerous for everyone to know.

    Also, pansy division fucking rules, still play sometimes, and have incredibly funny filthy lyrics "Whipped my ass in tennis" is a banger.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    It's really incredible and a testament to the general public's willingness to accept people that culture overall shifted so dramatically from casually insulting queer people to a laugh track on TV to just 10 years later federally legalizing gay marriage (via supreme court precedent and of course still not passing an actual law to make it harder to overturn, mind you) and not long after that majority opinion was already in support of queer folks

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago*

    It also tied in with the general global rejection of organized religion and promotion of public education. It turns out that when children aren’t indoctrinated, they grow up to be less hateful of others.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago

    It's a testament to how important representation is. Once they started seeing themselves portrayed positively (or shit, even just neutrally) on TV and in movies, it was only a matter of time.

    Which is also why racists lose their minds about casting people of color. They know how important it is.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    Reminds me of that scene in Something About Mary. Be interesting to see how younger generations would react to watching this.

    Actually, I haven't watched that movie in over a decade. Probably hasn't aged too well. Especially with that crook Brett Favre in it.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 hours ago

    I honestly don't think they'd understand whats going on. Whens the last time you saw coverage about something like that, george michael? Maybe they'd think it was an illegal party, or some kinda grindr flash mob, but the cultural reference of raids is just gone unless your 40+.

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