what too much digital circus, slopaganda, and warhammer 40k memes makes to your brain. at first you go "for the emperor!" when you notice, you are making part of jehova's witness for nerds

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[–] 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (4 children)

Yeah I'm getting the impression that this person thinks rationalism = anti-logical-fallacy. That's not what rationalism is. Not withstanding the merits or lack thereof in using logical fallacy traps to "win" arguments. TLDR: DM sublimates the contradictions of empericism vs rationalism

(I wouldn't be surprised if the reification of AI doomerism is probably the same that the poster uses to counter the doomerism)

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  • [–] 3 points 2 hours ago* (3 children)

    I don't think OOP means Rationalism (philosophy), but rather the Rationalist movement. Y'know that one with Eliezer Yudkowsky and the LessWrong forum.

    They are the Jehovah's Witness of AI lol.

    In any case, you are still correct since these guys certainly do the fallacy you described.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago) (2 children)

    Thanks for letting me know. I've not heard of these thing before... so I looked them up briefly and stopped reading once I encountered that this was used as a recruiting tool and written by Yudowsky:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Methods_of_Rationality

    I don't think I got smarter here. Might have lost a few brain cells. I was going to ask if this is an empericist/positivist group but that might be giving them too much credit, it looks like reactionary book club (even that might be too much credit) with the focus here being AI? They claim to stand for "AI safety" but I am very much getting "environmentalism without class struggle" vibes.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 child)

    No problem.

    I wouldn't even grant this label to them. It's full reactionary accelerationism without care for the environment. Look who funds the Machine Intelligence Research Institute (led by Yudkowsky):

    https://intelligence.org/transparency/

    • An anonymous Ethereum cryptocurrency investor in 2018 and 2021.
    • Open Philanthropy, a joint initiative with the philanthropic foundation Good Ventures.
    • Vitalik Buterin, the inventor and co-founder of Ethereum.
    • The Thiel Foundation, a private foundation funded by Paypal co-founder and venture capitalist Peter Thiel.
    • A different anonymous Ethereum cryptocurrency investor in 2017.
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