yeah there is sorta an issue I see in a lot of these types of things. You get people asking how a newb should get into something and people have these strange biases. I think in some cases its the folks that can't understand that people don't understand everything they understand. Or its just a particular religious like ferver around a philosophy. Like with biking you get folk who hate bike lanes and insist all biker should aggressively take the lane. I think I had another example of a group but it escapes me now. Anyway I do see a lot of folks pushing like arch and saying its way easy. I mean it is not as bad as it used to be but they don't get that someone wants to install and it to work without doing a single solitary additional thing. Zorin actually gets hate because it has a paid for version with support along with a community edition. I don't get that as its actually the oss model for making money and is how red hat got going. You don't really buy the software you buy support. Some see ubuntu and its respins in general as a sell out maybe because you can opt to have the non open source video drivers from nvidia. Anyway they do a disservice by pushing things that are not really set it and forget it. Like im doing bazzite now and if somone asks for a system that is good with gaming I will mention it but assume a gamer is willing to go to a bit greater lengths. The install requires you to get an iso particular to your hardware. Mainly video card. So its like one extra step and not quite as easy as installing windows. Some folks seem to not like it because steam is intalled by default which means it has proton which is why its great out of the box for gaming.