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[–] 1 point 13 hours ago (7 children)

it's currently about 5x the cost to produce so i think some other incentives are probably needed as well...

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  • [–] 1 point 12 hours ago (6 children)

    Currently, but a large part of that cost is due to energy prices. If you have cheaper energy, or periods of excess energy that bring the cost down to/near zero, that is what brings down the cost.

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  • [–] 1 point 12 hours ago (5 children)

    if only we actually got there... here the prices have been climbing more and more the more wind turbines we install because of grid instability.

    honestly a great pilot area for energy storage.

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  • [–] 1 point 12 hours ago (4 children)

    Variable tariffs are an option here and can give you periods of very cheap, free or even negative cost energy.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 hours ago

    Think of negative cost energy as paying someone to dispose of something you don't need, like how trash haulers get paid to take stuff away.

    If we get to the point where we have a bunch of generation for peak demand plus storage, and still have excess energy in other times, we can and should investigate fixing that excess energy into stable chemical molecules that are useful for other things (whether it's good for a material, for energy storage, for some other consumable like fertilizer, or even simply reversing carbon emissions by fixing carbon into stable non-CO2 compounds).

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  • [–] 1 point 8 hours ago (2 children)

    here too, but it doesn't really help the people who live in apartments :(

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