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Greta Thunberg calls for boycott of Apple for their 2nd largest worldwide R&D center in 'Israel' (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 9 points 5 days ago (20 children)

i wish i could escape the ecosystem but ive been in it for decades now and have no idea how to:

  • de apple but still retain coherence and not need to treat my phone like a linux pc
  • i can de mac and use a linux pc; i do on my servers at home fine.
  • de google. see phone concerns.
  • i can happily self host a cloud. but whatever.

sigh. no clear checklist path.

thing is: i am a sw engineer already and have lazily enjoyed my phone being something i dont have to worry about day to day.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 days ago (8 children)

    What exactly are the phone concerns tho?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago (6 children)

    welp it is my understanding that a degoogled andrioid os phone involves a bunch of sysadmin steps to keep stuff updated and secure? i could be wrong!

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  • [–] 9 points 5 days ago

    Not at all, perhaps only a modicum of technology confidence to do the install, though I can understand how it can feel/seem a tad daunting. Sent from my GrapheneOS pixel with no sysadmin knowledge 🫡.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Only if you consider using a different app than the play store to be sysadmin, really. Depending on your reliance on proprietary apps and ability to accept foss apps, it doesn't have to be much different.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 days ago

    well yeah. i love me some foss stuff. but from an os level, the footprint and response to cves from an oss os vs a corporate one i can see going both ways. in short, i should pick up and try a graphene one.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago

    I don't think it was ever that troublesome. But custom rom support was indeed a hit or miss thing. I bought FP6 with /e/OS preinstalled for this reason and had no issues. At least no major ones. No babysitting required stuff just works.

    Other popular option is google pixel with graphene.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago (1 child)

    Using GrapheneOS is as simple or as complicated as you want it to be. I'm not de googled entirely as I use the play store for some apps, but running the sandboxed play store and an F droid client is all it takes. That's like 5 minutes of setup. It's really not different from stock android or iOS except I have two app stores to choose from instead of one. It all updates automatically and just works

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  • [–] 4 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    i left their ecosystem about 3 years ago now.

    • i replaced by macbook with a lenovo which came without any OS (no microsoft taint!).
    • i replaced by iphone with a fairphone running e/OS/, it can do anything my pro max could except take equally good photos, for some that might be a dealbreaker but avoiding US stuff is more important for me. there is also jolla as an alternative, but it costs three times as much.
    • i switched to pcloud (a swiss pay-once model) from icloud, it took a couple of hours to download 53.000 photos, since they limit it to 1000 at a time (maybe there was a better way to do it). it works so much better than icloud too.
    • i switched to several mail providers that weren't quite what i needed until i found a local server provider, costs me $20 a year + $20 for a domain, with some 50gb of email storage. they have since increased their price but i'm locked in to this offering. if they ever force bump the price i'd try mailbox.org though.
    • i tried to use cryptdrive for writing and documents but there is no native software and it's annoying to use on phone so i now basically do all my writing and notes in upnote. it's everything i need in terms of writing and sharing and uses a pay-once model. they also add all features i have personally ask for, so that's really cool.
    • i had already used bitwarden for all passwords and proton authenticator so i don't need to move any of that shit over.

    i haven't used any google products in like 10 years anyway (it's why i switched to apple in the first place. but i feel like now the open source or european alternatives have finally caught up with the standards i need).

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago

    great write up. thanks! i use protonmail for my domain emails. but will look into e/os/ and fair phone when this iphone dies. the other things i’ll look into, too! (i dont so much care abt photos but it couldnt hurt to keep them backed up, i reckon )

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  • [–] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    I wouldn't bother with the mobile devices so much.

    Google is deeply embedded in the zionist entity. It has multiple subdivisions located there, deep ties to their intelligence apparatus (and to the US intelligence apparatus) Jumping from paying apple $1000 for a phone to paying Google $1000 for a phone that you install another OS on doesn't really help IMO and is like jumping from a boiling pot into the deep fryer next to it.

    Don't buy Mac computers, don't buy Apple accessories, don't buy in iTunes, and limit app store purchases where feasible. That and putting up some stickers/posters or making more people aware of this complicity to hit Apple even a little in the pocket will do more than switching phone ecosystems like that.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago

    welcome to my world. lol

    google's "dont be evil" motto suckered me in during the early 2000's and now i'm so quagmiresd in it that i can't find a single path for all of it.

    atleast graphene for me will be slightly easier since i've mostly used android this entire time -- idk what iphone users will do.

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