▲ 344 ▼ Authoritarian! (thelemmy.club) submitted 6 days ago by yogthos@lemmy.ml to c/socialism@lemmy.ml 431 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -4 points 4 days ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children) Marx was explicitly clear, the working classes should be the dictators of society when building towards communism. The USSR was run by the working classes, for the interests of the working classes. All states are inherently "authoritarian," as they are all monopolies on violence. Speaking as though a worker-state could somehow not be a monopoly on violence just eschews Marxist analysis entirely. Is your point that Marx was a "Stalinist?" This is absurd. The USSR was Marxist-Leninist, and "Stalinism" does not exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -5 points 4 days ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (2 children) On paper and in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -5 points 4 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago You haven't demonstrated any actual point, you just kept yelling about "Stalinism" with no coherent backing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children) Marx was explicitly clear, the working classes should be the dictators of society when building towards communism. The USSR was run by the working classes, for the interests of the working classes. All states are inherently "authoritarian," as they are all monopolies on violence. Speaking as though a worker-state could somehow not be a monopoly on violence just eschews Marxist analysis entirely. Is your point that Marx was a "Stalinist?" This is absurd. The USSR was Marxist-Leninist, and "Stalinism" does not exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -5 points 4 days ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (2 children) On paper and in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -5 points 4 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago You haven't demonstrated any actual point, you just kept yelling about "Stalinism" with no coherent backing. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -5 points 4 days ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (2 children) On paper and in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -5 points 4 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago You haven't demonstrated any actual point, you just kept yelling about "Stalinism" with no coherent backing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (2 children) On paper and in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -5 points 4 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago You haven't demonstrated any actual point, you just kept yelling about "Stalinism" with no coherent backing. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -5 points 4 days ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago You haven't demonstrated any actual point, you just kept yelling about "Stalinism" with no coherent backing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago You haven't demonstrated any actual point, you just kept yelling about "Stalinism" with no coherent backing. permalink fedilink source parent