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A Berkeley bike lane would eliminate 145 parking spaces. Residents are suing to stop it (www.sfchronicle.com)
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[–] 18 points 3 days ago (5 children)

What they're missing is the simple fact that the more people who ride bikes, the fewer parking spots you need!

I still say we should re-brand bike lanes as "Get bikes out of the way of our wonderful precious cars lanes" and then maybe they will realize that bike lanes make driving better too.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago* (1 child)

    The problem with that logic is this is a residential area. Getting people out of cars and into cycling is great and reduces how often cars are needed. All good things, but probably not enough to eliminate the need for cars.

    When I lived downtown, I was able to walk or take the train almost everywhere. But there were always a few remaining things where I needed a car. It was great having the option to rarely use a car but I wasn’t able to get away from the need to have one. It greatly reduced how often I used a car but did not at all rescue that I needed a parking spot

    Assuming this is residential and the spots were needed, we’d be better off finding a long term storage solution for cars, an alternate location for vehicles that are needed but rarely used

    But I’ll agree with your logic if this is mostly retail

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    Every house has a driveway and there's almost always one car in the driveway an one car parked in the street out front. There is some retail that relies on street parking, but when bike lanes go in, such businesses always seem to find that it leads to more people being able to get to their businesses instead of fewer. I agree having bike-able neighborhoods doesn't eliminate the need for cars. Heck I have a car that I hardly ever use and have off-street parking available so I recognize my car privilege, but it might reduce the need for two-car families. Or at least reduce the number of families so dependent on having both cars with immediate access to the street at all times that they couldn't park both cars in the driveway. There's also an elementary school along the route, a park and community center, and a little local grocery market, which would all become safely bike-able for families. It really seems like it would improve the quality of life and not be such a major inconvenience. I saw a few "We support bike lanes on Hopkins St." in yards. It sounds more to me like a vocal minority of curmudgeons gumming up the works as usual.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago* (2 children)

    Theyre ripping out already installed bike lanes in Toronto, after their own reports indicate it wont likely help congestion. They won a court case to override the city and do it.

    I cant wait to see the stats showing more accidents and more congestion and how it was stupid pandering to the low IQ voters and big oil, and the connection the premier has to the removal people earning $$$.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    It's insane to me that a province would think it knows more than a municipality about how best to utilize its infrastructure. City administration would have a much better idea of how the bike lanes are doing and what ripping them up would do to traffic.

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