submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [M] to c/genart@lemmy.today
 

We refuse art_anti-art as product, brand, credential, and personality package.

We’re done asking galleries, critics, algorithms, institutions, or strangers on the internet for permission.

We reject the idea that the right materials, the right training, or the right process make something more legitimate.

Paint on canvas, junk mail glued to cardboard, a photograph, a broken chair, code, a photocopier, or an image generated with AI. Everything is a tool. Nothing more sacred than that.

We’ll use whatever we want.

Art_anti-art doesn’t have to mean anything any more than a bird has to mean something when it flies. A hawk doesn’t circle because it represents freedom. A wild boar rooting through the dirt isn’t beautiful or ugly. It just exists. Art_anti-art can exist that way too. It doesn’t owe anyone beauty, ugliness, skill, labor, difficulty, a message, or an explanation.

We refuse the demand that every object justify its existence. If we call something art_anti-art, it’s art_anti-art. If somebody else refuses to call it art_anti-art, fine. Their refusal doesn’t change ours.

And we refuse the new gatekeepers who tell us which machines we’re allowed to touch. AI generation belongs here for exactly the same reason scissors, cameras, synthesizers, photocopiers, software, found objects, and paint belong here: because we choose to use it.

The process isn’t an embarrassment to hide. Generation, prompting, selection, rejection, alteration, collage, painting over it, destroying it, or leaving the output exactly as it came out are all available to us. The naysayers can declare that it isn’t art_anti-art. We refuse their authority to decide.

There’s no required amount of work and no approved way to make something. Make something painstakingly by hand. Generate it in thirty seconds. Tear up an advertisement and glue the pieces together. Paint over your own work. Make something useless. Make something stupid. Make something nobody sees.

Refusalism begins with a simple claim: art_anti-art is whatever we decide to call art_anti-art, made however we decide to make it.

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[–] [S] 1 point 1 week ago* (2 children)

If the ideal is art for it’s own sake with no other motive, why show it in the first place.

For me, on this platform, it's mostly for the interest in seeing the hateful insults I get (maybe that makes me sort of a troll though?). And hopefully to inspire others to fight against the tide of hate that I see becoming the norm on here. The fact that I've had people tell me to kill myself or that my wife should leave me, just because they are unhappy I used AI, says a lot. They get lots of upvotes when they say stuff like that too.

So I post for fun. Definitely not for validation, since I would not get any here. BUT it brought your conversation here, so it's already paying off, as I think this is a fun topic! So thank you for this!

It makes me think of Goya’s Black Paintings. They were never intended to be seen by anyone, he painted because he needed to.

I've thought a lot about this too. I'm not sure I have a need to create. Sometimes I go months without the urge. Then I will go several months doing it nonstop. But for enjoyment more than need. I've been this way all my life, so when I was a professional artist, that was difficult, as I usually just work when "I'm in the mood" to. Deadlines were horrible for me. lol

But even when I painted professionally, I felt strange calling myself an "artist." I'm not sure why. And when other people call me that, I feel weird. When my wife introduces me to friends I cringe when she refers to me as an artist. I usually just say I'm a painter, and that I paint ugly little paintings or that I am best known for designing junk mail that people threw away.

I've recently taken to calling myself an anti-artist and it's been great fun.

As for your stuff, I hope that none of this has caused you to stop. Stop only if you feel like stopping. Continue only if you feel like continuing. Don't get lost in the weeds of contemplation. People like us tend to overthink stuff. Once I stopped doing that, I have much more happiness in doing what I do.

Probably best not to listen to me though. After all, I did post a picture of a mans head screaming while stuck in an icky strawberry amongst a field worms today. So...

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I don't paint or draw as much as I'd like to for sure. But what keeps me from picking up my brushes or pencils is not really a question of purity of intention or some other high minded ideal. It's mostly perfectionism. I have a hard time doing things badly and I get very frustrated when I can't execute an idea to way I envision it.

    I know intellectually that the only way I can get to the point where my work reflects my vision is to make a lot of stuff that doesn't first. It's hard for me to practice it though. There are other factors at play too that are only tangentially related to the practice of art, but they're not worth mentioning here.

    The older I get thought the more frustrated I am by the seemingly impossible to be rid of need for perfection. If I had spent every second I've wasted on perfection on making art, I'd be a master able to create anything I could dream up. Instead I am perpetually trapped as an intermediate artist constantly trying to relearn everything from scratch.

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