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[–] 5 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I think you missed the part where they are lying to the conservatives to get them on board with things that are actively good for them

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  • [–] 3 points 10 hours ago* (1 child)

    I know people do that and while this reframing is not exactly a lie, it's interesting it works even when they are lumping walking (Homo erectus) and buses, trains, trams and presumably bikes (all 19ᵗʰ century) while excluding cars (basically early 20ᵗʰ century)

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  • [–] 5 points 9 hours ago

    If all transport was bikes, trains and trams - you most likely still can get everywhere by foot. If all transport was cars - not neccessarily; is what I think is the main thing that separates it from straight up deception

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