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Rich ppl live longer (thelemmy.club)
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[–] -1 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Come on, you have to say it's positively correlated rather than causative that's the whole point of the thread.

This isn't a hill I want to die on, but I don't think it's a meaningful claim without a bit more nuance.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 hours ago

    No, it's causal.

    We know the mechanisms by which alcohol causes negative health effects, to basically all the systems in the body.

    It's not a particularly strong effect for the occasional drinker, but the degree of confidence we have in the correlation is very strong, and we have an underlying model of the biological mechanisms that cause poor health outcomes.

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  • [–] 3 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    Well, the WHO puts it in the same category as tobacco. Is tobacco just strongly correlated to cancer? And I don't need to say it is causative, because The Lancet did.

    You can stack that data up against your anecdotes however you like.

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  • [–] 1 point 20 hours ago

    I wonder if this is something that changed over time. As in preservatives and all sorts of chemicals being added to tobacco or alcohol. For example, I can smoke Japanese cigarettes without a problem. I've smoked Vietnam era MRE cigarettes, Old Ukrainian unfiltered cigarettes. But I can't smoke US made ones since around 2007, they make me sick and taste like ash.

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