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Linus Torvalds used AI to fix a Linux bug, and now LLM critics on Linux face an uncomfortable choice (www.xda-developers.com)
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[–] 5 points 5 days ago (1 child)

They are really not that distinct, all the models cheat off each other just like they cheat copyrights.

The entire premise of chatbots is to have a simple natural-language interface instead of those scary GUIs and programming languages. The idea that maybe they didn't know enough about how to interact with ai, and that's why it failed to help them, is a little silly, and the more you explain how we're all using ai wrong, the sillier you look.

You've obviously sunk a lot of costs into genai, both in time and money, and that is making you defensive. Somebody that isn't impressed by Claude premium isn't going to do any of what you suggest, let alone get any more value out of it, and that's valid for them. You're not seriously interested in helping them professionally, you are just insecure.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago* (1 child)

    I dispute all of this

    The entire premise of chatbots is to have a simple natural-language interface instead of those scary GUIs and programming languages.

    Absolutely not. This is not what text models were made for, it's what jerks like Altman and Modi twisted them into with marketing.

    The idea that maybe they didn’t know enough about how to interact with ai, and that’s why it failed to help them, is a little silly, and the more you explain how we’re all using ai wrong, the sillier you look.

    I'm not blaming the user, I'm saying they're crap services. I think the superlative/cursing is necessary here; they are so bad and enshittified it is astounding.

    You’ve obviously sunk a lot of costs into genai, both in time and money, and that is making you defensive.

    I have paid a total of a few bucks into APIs, I've never had a Claude or OpenAI subscription in my life. I don't know why you would assume this.

    Somebody that isn’t impressed by Claude premium isn’t going to do any of what you suggest, let alone get any more value out of it, and that’s valid for them. You’re not seriously interested in helping them professionally, you are just insecure.

    I'm not insecure about this. I don't need LLMs or generative ML, though I am interested in it. I have many dire personal issues, but people are free to program however they wish and I'm not going to gaslight anyone about that.

    I do think text models have been bastardized into "a simple natural-language interface instead of those scary GUIs and programming languages." That is NOT what they were intended to do, no matter how much Claude tries to sell people on it. I think this misunderstanding is extremely important because it's exactly what's propping up abominations/scams like OpenAI/Anthropic.

    But they can still be extremely useful tools in narrower scopes, like all machine learning has for over a decade, and I'm not going to shy away advocating for that. I do resent all of LLMs being pigeonholed so tightly, and if people are going to try them, I at least want to point them to a more reasonable/frugal source than Claude premium and Claude Code.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Evangelizing llms is pretty much all you do on here, you have spent an enormous amount of time and effort on them. If you're not even willing to accept that you have sunk costs relating to genai, your stating "I'm not insecure about this" is really not compelling.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago*

    Evangelizing llms is pretty much all you do on here, you have spent an enormous amount of time and effort on them.

    This is a fair point. I talk about it a lot here, too much TBH.

    Sorting by New Comments, topics like this are mostly what come up and peak my interest... I suppose I need to curate/moderate my Lemmy feed, like I've been telling myself I should do for some time.

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