▲ 272 ▼ GrapheneOS project: pixel 11 no longer supports hardware memory tagging (MTE); GrapheneOS might skip the the whole pixel 11 series (grapheneos.social) submitted 2 weeks ago by beep@piefed.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 89 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1368563/grapheneos-project-pixel-11-no-longer-supports-hardware-memory-tagging-mte Bluesky.
[–] fluxx@mander.xyz 29 points 2 weeks ago (6 children) Well, we had a good run. It was nice while it lasted... permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (5 children) Probably for the best. As they said, it frees them up to focus on Motorola devices, a company that's actively working with them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] fluxx@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) Honestly, I expect it will become increasingly hard getting a company willing to do something like this. Lately, all of the companies have started heavily enshittifying and I don't know many that still care about their customers. And it's a domino effect - they know you ain't going anywhere, all the others are just as shit. I remember a time where you had a 100 phones officially supported by Lineageos and were cheap. You could get a Xiaomi, Huawei for like a $100 and they would run lineageos almost out of the box. Or a Nexus 5 for a few extra bucks. As soon as they eliminated the competition, they've become closed entirely and are basically spying machines. I don't trust Motorola will be trustworthy in the long term, if they capture any market. Just a few months ago, they were caught hijacking affiliate links on their phones (link). I don't know when the consumer situation will change, but I'm not holding my breath for Motorola. Of course, if they make a good phone running GOS, I might try it if my pixel kicks the bucket. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) GOS supposedly has 200k users. That's 200k Pixel phones sold for the purpose of GOS. A bunch of companies used to buy Blackberries because they had the reputation of being the most secure. It's a viable business model. They'll be sold and marketed as "GrapheneOS compatible". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fluxx@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) I really hope so. 200k is peanuts for google, but probably significant for Motorola. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago Actually, Motorola has more market share than Pixel. Though Google mainly cares about the software ecosystem, so they explicitly don't care about Graphene since it's not an outcome they want in the industry anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 point 2 weeks ago they are all trying to wall in thier customers in a garden. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (5 children) Probably for the best. As they said, it frees them up to focus on Motorola devices, a company that's actively working with them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] fluxx@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) Honestly, I expect it will become increasingly hard getting a company willing to do something like this. Lately, all of the companies have started heavily enshittifying and I don't know many that still care about their customers. And it's a domino effect - they know you ain't going anywhere, all the others are just as shit. I remember a time where you had a 100 phones officially supported by Lineageos and were cheap. You could get a Xiaomi, Huawei for like a $100 and they would run lineageos almost out of the box. Or a Nexus 5 for a few extra bucks. As soon as they eliminated the competition, they've become closed entirely and are basically spying machines. I don't trust Motorola will be trustworthy in the long term, if they capture any market. Just a few months ago, they were caught hijacking affiliate links on their phones (link). I don't know when the consumer situation will change, but I'm not holding my breath for Motorola. Of course, if they make a good phone running GOS, I might try it if my pixel kicks the bucket. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) GOS supposedly has 200k users. That's 200k Pixel phones sold for the purpose of GOS. A bunch of companies used to buy Blackberries because they had the reputation of being the most secure. It's a viable business model. They'll be sold and marketed as "GrapheneOS compatible". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fluxx@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) I really hope so. 200k is peanuts for google, but probably significant for Motorola. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago Actually, Motorola has more market share than Pixel. Though Google mainly cares about the software ecosystem, so they explicitly don't care about Graphene since it's not an outcome they want in the industry anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 point 2 weeks ago they are all trying to wall in thier customers in a garden. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fluxx@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children) Honestly, I expect it will become increasingly hard getting a company willing to do something like this. Lately, all of the companies have started heavily enshittifying and I don't know many that still care about their customers. And it's a domino effect - they know you ain't going anywhere, all the others are just as shit. I remember a time where you had a 100 phones officially supported by Lineageos and were cheap. You could get a Xiaomi, Huawei for like a $100 and they would run lineageos almost out of the box. Or a Nexus 5 for a few extra bucks. As soon as they eliminated the competition, they've become closed entirely and are basically spying machines. I don't trust Motorola will be trustworthy in the long term, if they capture any market. Just a few months ago, they were caught hijacking affiliate links on their phones (link). I don't know when the consumer situation will change, but I'm not holding my breath for Motorola. Of course, if they make a good phone running GOS, I might try it if my pixel kicks the bucket. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) GOS supposedly has 200k users. That's 200k Pixel phones sold for the purpose of GOS. A bunch of companies used to buy Blackberries because they had the reputation of being the most secure. It's a viable business model. They'll be sold and marketed as "GrapheneOS compatible". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fluxx@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) I really hope so. 200k is peanuts for google, but probably significant for Motorola. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago Actually, Motorola has more market share than Pixel. Though Google mainly cares about the software ecosystem, so they explicitly don't care about Graphene since it's not an outcome they want in the industry anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 point 2 weeks ago they are all trying to wall in thier customers in a garden. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) GOS supposedly has 200k users. That's 200k Pixel phones sold for the purpose of GOS. A bunch of companies used to buy Blackberries because they had the reputation of being the most secure. It's a viable business model. They'll be sold and marketed as "GrapheneOS compatible". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fluxx@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) I really hope so. 200k is peanuts for google, but probably significant for Motorola. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago Actually, Motorola has more market share than Pixel. Though Google mainly cares about the software ecosystem, so they explicitly don't care about Graphene since it's not an outcome they want in the industry anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fluxx@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) I really hope so. 200k is peanuts for google, but probably significant for Motorola. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago Actually, Motorola has more market share than Pixel. Though Google mainly cares about the software ecosystem, so they explicitly don't care about Graphene since it's not an outcome they want in the industry anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago Actually, Motorola has more market share than Pixel. Though Google mainly cares about the software ecosystem, so they explicitly don't care about Graphene since it's not an outcome they want in the industry anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 point 2 weeks ago they are all trying to wall in thier customers in a garden. permalink fedilink source parent