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[–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

Patrol officers shouldn't all be SWAT. That's a specialist designation that should be reserved for extreme cases.

When everyone is outfitted and trained as a militarized unit, they treat more situations like a military exercise. When someone has a warrant because they forgot to pay a speeding ticket, they shouldn't be breeching doors. When someone threatens to kill themselves, they shouldn't respond with armored vehicles and sniper rifles.

That's what the militarization of beat cops has done. They're trained and equipped in a manner that causes them to take extreme measures that do not serve the needs of the public. Essentially, every police call is now an activation of SWAT, which is overkill 99.99% of the time.

We've actually needed a militarized response zero times in the history of our department, but they devote massive amounts of resources to the ability. Those resources would be better spent on fire prevention, infrastructure maintenance, and municipal projects while relying on our already-existing mutual aid interlocal agreements for heavy police response in the event it's ever needed.

As for timing, right now if there were an emergency, our police would travel to go to a scene, gear up behind the cars, and make plans for a response, then engage. A SWAT team from a nearby agency would gear up and make plans while en route in the back of the van and be ready to engage just as quickly while being better trained for the job.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Oh okay, we're adding the "rifles are assault rifles" issue to the pile of topics you've abandoned too?

    Patrol officers shouldn’t all be SWAT. That’s a specialist designation that should be reserved for extreme cases.

    It seems like you're conflating SWAT with riot police.

    When someone has a warrant because they forgot to pay a speeding ticket, they shouldn’t be breeching doors

    I'd be shocked if you could prove that's happened, let alone it happens often enough that you're asserting it's normal - for your local agency or US law enforcement more broadly.

    When someone threatens to kill themselves, they shouldn’t respond with armored vehicles and sniper rifles.

    Likewise for this claim.

    I'll skip over the soapboxing because it's predicated on your very unlikely assertion that your local agency is set up the way you claim, let alone that the vast majority of agencies in the US are set up that way.

    As for timing, right now if there were an emergency, our police would travel to go to a scene, gear up behind the cars, and make plans for a response, then engage. A SWAT team from a nearby agency would gear up and make plans while en route in the back of the van and be ready to engage just as quickly while being better trained for the job.

    My county agency has a SWAT team, but they're distributed throughout the county so their response time is around an hour. I think you'll find that's more often to be the case than this Hollywood scenario you're suggesting is both universal and guaranteed.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I'm not making wild supposition about my police department. I'd show the numbers if I weren't one of the 11 people that work for the city that isn't a cop. I work in the same building and park next to their cruisers every day. I attend the meetings where they get their infinite budgets for flahbangs, tear gas, and new cars while I have to figure out how to squeeze enough money from the budget to replace my permit tech's keyboard.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago

    Then maybe you shouldn't rely on your extremely rare and unverifiable situation to make assertions about the entire US.

    On an unrelated note, I am paid $5,000,000 per second in a job that totally exists and is extremely common but I can't prove because it would dox me.

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