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[+] -17 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

How anarchism actually works:

"These suckers are socially obligated to give me free lemonade if I look like I really need it"

"Fuck you, you can't have my lemons to make lemonade for that slacker, I need my lemons"

"No one wants to provide the materials and do the dangerous work of fixing my roof for free! And now my house will collapse and I'll have nowhere to live..."

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  • [–] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    Bro has never lived anywhere but buttfuck suburbia and it shows. I'd ask how your neighbors are doing but you dont know.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

    One of them lost a roof during some recent storms. He just moved into the neighborhood and no one had his contact info. I found his house listing on zillow, called his realtor and managed to get her to get him home in time to get his pets and documents secure before the next wave of storms hit.

    My neighbors next to me are retired, they have an old dog and are struggling with health issues (all 3 of them) neighbor across the street had a falling out with his son, daughter is graduating high school this year. Other neighbor got a new job and a raise, has been working really hard on his yard and put in a nice gazebo and grill. The guys next to him are working on their drag racing VW Bug. The people on his other side are from Pakistan and are starting a food truck business.

    Bro has never lived anywhere but buttfuck suburbia and it shows.

    Can you explain how/why people in urban or rural areas would behave any different?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

    Your first comment is exhibiting the isolationist mindset of suburnites while simultaneously marking mutual aid as anathema to your world view. Seems completely captured by capitalism to me.

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  • [–] 2 points 56 minutes ago

    Your first comment is exhibiting the isolationist mindset of suburnites

    Nah, they were just stating the reality. I know you'd like to keep your fantasy about an anarchist utopia intact, but in case you haven't interacted with many people lately, I'll just gently remind you that most people are not that altruistic.

    while simultaneously marking mutual aid as anathema to your world view.

    They didn't say anything about their personal worldview. Maybe they think that anarchist utopia of yours would be the dream. But they know that it is a dream and nothing more. Acknowledging the prevailing mindset in society and the limitations that mindset places on collectivist social reform is not an expression of personal conviction.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

    Your first comment is exhibiting the isolationist mindset of suburnites

    I don't think you can narrow that general mindset down to suburbanites. People in all kinds of population densities form in-groups and outgroups, it doesn't matter if they are in suburbia, a big city, or out in the country. I lived in Baltimore for a year, and that was probably the most socially isolated I've ever been. The east coast of the US is just a bucket of crabs, everyone trying to climb over everyone else. The people there wouldn't even spit at you for free. My partner grew up in a very rural environment, like "outside city limits, and that city only had one traffic light of the blinking yellow variety" rural. The help they got growing up was from family. They would do odd jobs for neighbors and neighbors would do likewise, but there was always some expectation of barter or compensation for materials and services. They definitely had a concept of private property, and knew their tools, time, and expertise were valuable assets necessary to continue their desired lifestyle.

    Please, contrast my experiences with yours. I'd love to hear a first-hand account from someone living in a current anarchist society.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

    So you're saying rural America survives off of mutual aid and community welfare while smacking anarchists with the same hand? You just blow in from Stupidville?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 hour ago* (1 child)

    No, I'm saying that your reading comprehension abilities and your lofty ideals of a utopian society where no one needs property and everyone contributes as best they're able with no concern for getting value out of an exchange proportional to the effort put in, is indicative of a failed home-school education and a lack of real world experience.

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  • [–] 3 points 58 minutes ago (1 child)

    everyone contributes as best they're able with no concern for getting value out of an exchange proportional to the effort put in

    How much effort went into contacting your neighbor about their roof and how much value did you get out of it?

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  • [–] 1 point 39 minutes ago*

    Maybe an hour of time between checking around the house to make sure no one was home, checking with my other neighbors to see if they had his contact info, calling the non-emergency police line, chekcing the country records for property info, digging up my neighbor's linkedin profile, calling the corporate office (getting stuck on hold) then thinking to check the Zillow listing and call the agent that last sold the house.

    What was it worth to me? I didn't have to spend the rest of my day wondering if he was going to come home from a day of work and find that his house needed major repairs that could have been mitigated if only he'd known a few hours earlier. He was able to get a crew out there the same day to get the tree out of his roof and get some temporary coverage up to weather then next few days of storms.

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