β² 324 βΌ Ken Thompson Hack 2.0 (thelemmy.club) submitted 2 weeks ago by einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 94 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) The very fact that Anthropic is now injecting a kind of watermark into every output, is solid proof that such a Ken Thompson hack is a inevetable risk permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AudaciousArmadillo@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) Ugh. Fuck "AI" and fuck Anthropic. But please read how the "watermarks" work. TL;TR its like a seeded run in a video game. With the seed and pseudo rng, you get the outcome i.e. the extruded text. In the watermark its the reverse, outcome + prng = seed. The result will be the same "quality" extruded garbage as before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Good luck. Lemmy is damn near the when it comes to wanting to hold an opinion on a topic without having first understood that topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 13 points 2 weeks ago That's just a reflection of the real life and not unique to Lemmy, dw permalink fedilink source parent [β] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) A bit of a late response, but why are they mutually exclusive? I get that the "seed" can be extracted if you check for it, but who says that seed can't be somrthing nefarious? Like, someone vibecodes a website. You visit the website, extract the seed and it shows you the complete userbase of that website. I'm just sptiballing here though. It might not be the best example. I get where you're coming from, but why we cant we both be right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AudaciousArmadillo@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) I don't think you got how it works. Not being mean, might have explained it badly. Maybe read their blog https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-text-watermark permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago Thanks, I'll read it tommorrow (it's almost midnight here) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AudaciousArmadillo@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children) Ugh. Fuck "AI" and fuck Anthropic. But please read how the "watermarks" work. TL;TR its like a seeded run in a video game. With the seed and pseudo rng, you get the outcome i.e. the extruded text. In the watermark its the reverse, outcome + prng = seed. The result will be the same "quality" extruded garbage as before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Good luck. Lemmy is damn near the when it comes to wanting to hold an opinion on a topic without having first understood that topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 13 points 2 weeks ago That's just a reflection of the real life and not unique to Lemmy, dw permalink fedilink source parent [β] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) A bit of a late response, but why are they mutually exclusive? I get that the "seed" can be extracted if you check for it, but who says that seed can't be somrthing nefarious? Like, someone vibecodes a website. You visit the website, extract the seed and it shows you the complete userbase of that website. I'm just sptiballing here though. It might not be the best example. I get where you're coming from, but why we cant we both be right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AudaciousArmadillo@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) I don't think you got how it works. Not being mean, might have explained it badly. Maybe read their blog https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-text-watermark permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago Thanks, I'll read it tommorrow (it's almost midnight here) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 child) Good luck. Lemmy is damn near the when it comes to wanting to hold an opinion on a topic without having first understood that topic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 13 points 2 weeks ago That's just a reflection of the real life and not unique to Lemmy, dw permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 13 points 2 weeks ago That's just a reflection of the real life and not unique to Lemmy, dw permalink fedilink source parent
[β] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) A bit of a late response, but why are they mutually exclusive? I get that the "seed" can be extracted if you check for it, but who says that seed can't be somrthing nefarious? Like, someone vibecodes a website. You visit the website, extract the seed and it shows you the complete userbase of that website. I'm just sptiballing here though. It might not be the best example. I get where you're coming from, but why we cant we both be right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] AudaciousArmadillo@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) I don't think you got how it works. Not being mean, might have explained it badly. Maybe read their blog https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-text-watermark permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago Thanks, I'll read it tommorrow (it's almost midnight here) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AudaciousArmadillo@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 child) I don't think you got how it works. Not being mean, might have explained it badly. Maybe read their blog https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-text-watermark permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago Thanks, I'll read it tommorrow (it's almost midnight here) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 week ago Thanks, I'll read it tommorrow (it's almost midnight here) permalink fedilink source parent
