I'm not a troll, I just call other people out for their BS.

I think most of lemmy.today is bad faith astroturfing.

This is not the first time !PapaSkwat@lemmy.today has preemptively banned me from a community I'm pretty sure I've never interacted with.

This is a warning for others. Do not assume posts on Lemmy.today are real or in good faith.


Here is a related post with similar circumstances.

https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/57218230

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[–] 52 points 1 month ago (21 children)

OMG who gives a shit about voting, these people are out of their minds

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  • [–] [S] 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I'm pretty sure I never voted on a single post from that community, but I did down vote one of that mods posts one time and was banned from a lot of communities they mod immediately after. I guess I'm on their premature block list or something.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago*

    Yea... I normally only lurk these posts to stock up on my PTB-list of communities and mods, but this here made me comment.

    A ban because of downvotes? Seriously? Because of disaggreeing? And trying to mitigate it with "DM me and we talk"? Nah, fuck that mod and fuck that noise!

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  • [+] -13 points 1 month ago (18 children)

    From the mod side of things, it can fuck up discovery of posts, artificially hiding things from any feed option but new. A smaller community might even need to do this kind of thing on occasion.

    I'm just dubious that this case matches need at all.

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  • [–] [S] 26 points 1 month ago (16 children)

    As a mod of a small community myself, I've never felt the need to research who downvoted a post and ban them.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    You're lucky you haven't had to deal with monstrous amounts of vote-brigading (and harassment) to the point that your community was being suppressed in visibility. I don't think this is what PapaSkwat was doing at all, but it is the reason why people can land legitimate bans for downvotes, as well as external behavior.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    I was on the tesseract secret censor list, and I get preemptively banned from communities that are against human rights often.

    I've not yet experienced vote brigading in my comms, I've only ever seen censoring and silencing of voices PTBs disagree with.

    So I wouldn't call myself lucky but I guess it could be worse, which is why vigilance is needed.

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  • [+] -13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    You’re lucky you haven’t had to deal with monstrous amounts of vote-brigading (and harassment) to the point that your community was being suppressed in visibility. I don’t think this is what PapaSkwat was doing at all

    This is the exact reason I do it though. Most people banned from my communities are known for serial downvoting or brigading. A few were just trolling me or called me names that led to the bans, but most were repeatedly downvoting my posts across multiple communities, regardless of the subject.

    Many of the names would downvote several of my posts in a row, one after another, in the exact same order within seconds of each other. That kind of repeated pattern is why I considered it coordinated brigading rather than normal voting. (I'm not saying OP did this)

    Go through the first couple of pages of my modlog. You may recognize names from your own ban list: https://lemmy.today/modlog/1591101

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  • [+] -13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

    21 of the banned names in my modlog also appear and are banned in your modlog too.

    As you can see, many of the same serial downvoters have been active in both of our communities.

    So at least 21 serial downvoters and trolls overlap in my community and your community. The mod logs I compared:

    https://lemmy.today/modlog/1591101 (my community)

    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog/1406343 (your community)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    My apologies. I wasn't aware of that. I couldn't see a lot of those communities in dbzer0's modlog. If OP was serially downvoting it does make sense why they were banned and I would do the same if they tried that in my communities no matter how much YPTB whines and cries and sends me rape threats in my DMs. Yes I've received rape threats over moderation actions before and it is disgusting. I don't blame everyone in this community for that, but this community fosters a certain type of entitled person who feels that I should bend to their whim.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    @qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org What the hell is your problem? I see you in the downvotes of most of my content which makes its way to your server. Which makes me think you're downvoting everything I post. Do you have a bone to pick with me? If you do you should come out and say it. This is petty behavior.

    Edit: Dyslexia

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  • [+] -10 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    To be clear, OP wasn’t one of the major serial downvoters whose names overlap on our ban lists. I was only explaining why I usually ban people since it was in relation to the conversation of banning for repeated downvoting. OP is banned from my communities because he keeps calling me a fascist over a previous moderation decision. I strongly disagree that banning someone from a small Lemmy community for downvoting and being rude makes me a fascist.

    I’m sorry you received rape threats. That’s completely unacceptable, and even more disturbing and vulgar that it happened over moderation. I’ve received threatening DMs myself, but nothing as horrible as what you experienced. The fact that some people on Lemmy behave that way is disgusting, especially over something as inconsequential as a community ban.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I know I didn't see them in mine and I knew I didn't ban them. Honestly calling someone a fascist over being banned for downvoting everything that's definitely a reason to ban from all.

    Yeah it's not okay. Actually I've been impersonated and doxxed as well so really awful shit. There are at least a few seriously unhinged people on here. People who need to be locked up.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I've had people try to doxx me. One told me to look behind me "right now!" because he was watching me. Which would have been pretty amazing to pull off considering I was on teh toilet in my bathroom in my tiny apartment. Another told me that he knew what town I lived in and would be stopping by. He didn't even have the correct state. People who do crap like this have lives that are so tiny that they think that by trying to intimidate someone, they have power over that person. Pathetic that they do that all because they got kicked out of a small online community that no one's heard of

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    They actually posted street view of my house. Exact street and state I live in. It scarred the shit out of me. Thankfully I was able to get programming.dev's admins to delete the images from pict-rs and ban the dipshit who did it. Still needed to stay with family for a while and was scared I would need to move.

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