▲ 636 ▼ Japan tried to build an operating system for the entire world, then the US government intervened (www.xda-developers.com) submitted 2 weeks ago* by inari@piefed.zip to c/technology@lemmy.world 185 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (1 child) Once again fuck America permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SuperFola@programming.dev -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children) I’d say US/USians, as America is more than just the US. America is composed of more countries like Canada, Mexico, Brazil… You can downvote me all you want, it doesn’t change anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] diocesegoldmine@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 days ago getting mass downvoted for caring about accuracy because it doesn't fit the European mindset... what a time to be alive. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 12 points 1 week ago South America, North America, and North North America permalink fedilink source parent [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (1 child) The US could mean Mexico though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiceBowl@piefed.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (1 child) Probably referring to Mexico’s official name, Estados Unidos Mexicanos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 child) Thanks! I never knew it had a longer official name. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (2 children) People who are adamant about "America is too confusing" are very rarely in agreement with "Afro-Eurasia", such that if someone says "Colombians are American", they're unlikely to say "French people are African" or even "Afro-Eurasian". It's a cultural/language thing, rather than an objective one. There's no reason that (most) English speakers who don't call Peruvians "Americans" are any more incorrect than Peruvians who don't say "Spanish people are Africans" are wrong. But it's become a whole thing on the internet to say that "USians are dumb and wrong" for not having the same language concepts as other cultures. There are just different numbers of continents taught in different cultures. But as a tourist, does anyone from outside the US say "I'm American" when they're asked where they're from? Canadians at least sure as fuck would never say that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent?useskin=vector#Number permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* I read a biography of a Brazilian guy who lived in France during the late 19th century/early 20th century. Everyone in Europe called him an American, and he referred to himself an American when he was contrasting Brazil and France. At one point he went off about how hopeful he was about new plane tech coming out, because it would help “unite Americans across our various countries.” However, I think it’s fallen out of fashion to talk this way in recent years, partially because of USA supremacy, which is I think why people are salty about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jif@piefed.ca -1 points 1 week ago (2 children) Nobody is saying it's too confusing. They're saying "stop claiming that word for yourself". Your examples are incorrect. The equivalent would be if France was called The United States of Europe, and used the word Europeans to refer exclusively to themselves. Then, naturally, Germans would stop using the word European to refer to themselves because others would think they were referring to France (The United States of Europe in this example). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago People regularly talk about Europe when they actually mean the EU or the other way around. I think that's the closest there is, and it's also annoying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago The USA is one of the few countries on earth to use a continent name as part of its country name. Yet you don't see too many people saying South Africa should refer to the entire southern part of the continent. People also don't seem to have a problem with using "US", which overlaps with Mexico aka EUM (or USM in English). Like I said, it's mostly a language and cultural divide. Are you advocating that Canadians or Mexicans should say they're American, even if they don't want to? In the English speaking world no one other than the USA says American. permalink fedilink source parent [–] the_fuckler@nord.pub 5 points 1 week ago (1 child) Now why would they be referring to Mexico? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SuperFola@programming.dev -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) America is not just North America you know. It’s a whole ass continent. America isn’t a country, the US is. So when you say America when you actually talk about only the US, it’s as is you were talking about Mexico, Canada, Brazil… as well as the US. Which is… dumb? False? Erroneous? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] the_fuckler@nord.pub 2 points 1 week ago Literally a hate crime 💀 good looking making sure nobody got confused permalink fedilink source parent [–] jif@piefed.ca 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) No idea why you're getting downvoted for this very valid point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nyctre@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) Because it's pedantry. I checked 4 dictionaries for america or american. Or just type "america" on whatever search engine First thing for 3/4 dictionaries was the US or its citizens. If anyone ever means to refer to the continent they usually say north/south America or "the Americas". Go to any country other than the US and ask a local "Are you american?". They're all gonna say the same thing. "No, I'm Mexican/Canadian/Chilean/etc." Whenever a word has multiple meanings, you're supposed to use context to figure out which one is being used. Well, the article title mentions the US government. It's also a very common phrase with a well established meaning. Check out Green day's american idiot, for example. Really doesn't take a genius to understand what op meant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CovertOperative@piefed.zip 0 points 1 week ago (1 child) Check every dictionary for america or american. Or just type "america" on whatever search engine. First thing is always the US or its citizens. Exactly! It's always the first! Let's check the renowned and proud American dictionary Merriam Webster: Oh. Huh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nyctre@piefed.social 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) My apologies, my fault for only checking the first 3 links that my search engine gave me, which were Cambridge, dictionary.com and Collinsdictionary.com And there's also this. . But I guess you got me there. I'll edit my comment to rectify this huge mistake. permalink fedilink source parent [+] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SuperFola@programming.dev -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children) I’d say US/USians, as America is more than just the US. America is composed of more countries like Canada, Mexico, Brazil… You can downvote me all you want, it doesn’t change anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] diocesegoldmine@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 days ago getting mass downvoted for caring about accuracy because it doesn't fit the European mindset... what a time to be alive. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 12 points 1 week ago South America, North America, and North North America permalink fedilink source parent [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (1 child) The US could mean Mexico though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiceBowl@piefed.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (1 child) Probably referring to Mexico’s official name, Estados Unidos Mexicanos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 child) Thanks! I never knew it had a longer official name. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (2 children) People who are adamant about "America is too confusing" are very rarely in agreement with "Afro-Eurasia", such that if someone says "Colombians are American", they're unlikely to say "French people are African" or even "Afro-Eurasian". It's a cultural/language thing, rather than an objective one. There's no reason that (most) English speakers who don't call Peruvians "Americans" are any more incorrect than Peruvians who don't say "Spanish people are Africans" are wrong. But it's become a whole thing on the internet to say that "USians are dumb and wrong" for not having the same language concepts as other cultures. There are just different numbers of continents taught in different cultures. But as a tourist, does anyone from outside the US say "I'm American" when they're asked where they're from? Canadians at least sure as fuck would never say that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent?useskin=vector#Number permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* I read a biography of a Brazilian guy who lived in France during the late 19th century/early 20th century. Everyone in Europe called him an American, and he referred to himself an American when he was contrasting Brazil and France. At one point he went off about how hopeful he was about new plane tech coming out, because it would help “unite Americans across our various countries.” However, I think it’s fallen out of fashion to talk this way in recent years, partially because of USA supremacy, which is I think why people are salty about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jif@piefed.ca -1 points 1 week ago (2 children) Nobody is saying it's too confusing. They're saying "stop claiming that word for yourself". Your examples are incorrect. The equivalent would be if France was called The United States of Europe, and used the word Europeans to refer exclusively to themselves. Then, naturally, Germans would stop using the word European to refer to themselves because others would think they were referring to France (The United States of Europe in this example). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago People regularly talk about Europe when they actually mean the EU or the other way around. I think that's the closest there is, and it's also annoying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago The USA is one of the few countries on earth to use a continent name as part of its country name. Yet you don't see too many people saying South Africa should refer to the entire southern part of the continent. People also don't seem to have a problem with using "US", which overlaps with Mexico aka EUM (or USM in English). Like I said, it's mostly a language and cultural divide. Are you advocating that Canadians or Mexicans should say they're American, even if they don't want to? In the English speaking world no one other than the USA says American. permalink fedilink source parent [–] the_fuckler@nord.pub 5 points 1 week ago (1 child) Now why would they be referring to Mexico? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SuperFola@programming.dev -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) America is not just North America you know. It’s a whole ass continent. America isn’t a country, the US is. So when you say America when you actually talk about only the US, it’s as is you were talking about Mexico, Canada, Brazil… as well as the US. Which is… dumb? False? Erroneous? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] the_fuckler@nord.pub 2 points 1 week ago Literally a hate crime 💀 good looking making sure nobody got confused permalink fedilink source parent [–] jif@piefed.ca 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) No idea why you're getting downvoted for this very valid point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nyctre@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) Because it's pedantry. I checked 4 dictionaries for america or american. Or just type "america" on whatever search engine First thing for 3/4 dictionaries was the US or its citizens. If anyone ever means to refer to the continent they usually say north/south America or "the Americas". Go to any country other than the US and ask a local "Are you american?". They're all gonna say the same thing. "No, I'm Mexican/Canadian/Chilean/etc." Whenever a word has multiple meanings, you're supposed to use context to figure out which one is being used. Well, the article title mentions the US government. It's also a very common phrase with a well established meaning. Check out Green day's american idiot, for example. Really doesn't take a genius to understand what op meant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CovertOperative@piefed.zip 0 points 1 week ago (1 child) Check every dictionary for america or american. Or just type "america" on whatever search engine. First thing is always the US or its citizens. Exactly! It's always the first! Let's check the renowned and proud American dictionary Merriam Webster: Oh. Huh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nyctre@piefed.social 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) My apologies, my fault for only checking the first 3 links that my search engine gave me, which were Cambridge, dictionary.com and Collinsdictionary.com And there's also this. . But I guess you got me there. I'll edit my comment to rectify this huge mistake. permalink fedilink source parent [+] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] diocesegoldmine@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 days ago getting mass downvoted for caring about accuracy because it doesn't fit the European mindset... what a time to be alive. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 12 points 1 week ago South America, North America, and North North America permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (1 child) The US could mean Mexico though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiceBowl@piefed.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (1 child) Probably referring to Mexico’s official name, Estados Unidos Mexicanos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 child) Thanks! I never knew it had a longer official name. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (2 children) People who are adamant about "America is too confusing" are very rarely in agreement with "Afro-Eurasia", such that if someone says "Colombians are American", they're unlikely to say "French people are African" or even "Afro-Eurasian". It's a cultural/language thing, rather than an objective one. There's no reason that (most) English speakers who don't call Peruvians "Americans" are any more incorrect than Peruvians who don't say "Spanish people are Africans" are wrong. But it's become a whole thing on the internet to say that "USians are dumb and wrong" for not having the same language concepts as other cultures. There are just different numbers of continents taught in different cultures. But as a tourist, does anyone from outside the US say "I'm American" when they're asked where they're from? Canadians at least sure as fuck would never say that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent?useskin=vector#Number permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* I read a biography of a Brazilian guy who lived in France during the late 19th century/early 20th century. Everyone in Europe called him an American, and he referred to himself an American when he was contrasting Brazil and France. At one point he went off about how hopeful he was about new plane tech coming out, because it would help “unite Americans across our various countries.” However, I think it’s fallen out of fashion to talk this way in recent years, partially because of USA supremacy, which is I think why people are salty about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jif@piefed.ca -1 points 1 week ago (2 children) Nobody is saying it's too confusing. They're saying "stop claiming that word for yourself". Your examples are incorrect. The equivalent would be if France was called The United States of Europe, and used the word Europeans to refer exclusively to themselves. Then, naturally, Germans would stop using the word European to refer to themselves because others would think they were referring to France (The United States of Europe in this example). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago People regularly talk about Europe when they actually mean the EU or the other way around. I think that's the closest there is, and it's also annoying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago The USA is one of the few countries on earth to use a continent name as part of its country name. Yet you don't see too many people saying South Africa should refer to the entire southern part of the continent. People also don't seem to have a problem with using "US", which overlaps with Mexico aka EUM (or USM in English). Like I said, it's mostly a language and cultural divide. Are you advocating that Canadians or Mexicans should say they're American, even if they don't want to? In the English speaking world no one other than the USA says American. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago (1 child) How? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiceBowl@piefed.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (1 child) Probably referring to Mexico’s official name, Estados Unidos Mexicanos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 child) Thanks! I never knew it had a longer official name. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (2 children) People who are adamant about "America is too confusing" are very rarely in agreement with "Afro-Eurasia", such that if someone says "Colombians are American", they're unlikely to say "French people are African" or even "Afro-Eurasian". It's a cultural/language thing, rather than an objective one. There's no reason that (most) English speakers who don't call Peruvians "Americans" are any more incorrect than Peruvians who don't say "Spanish people are Africans" are wrong. But it's become a whole thing on the internet to say that "USians are dumb and wrong" for not having the same language concepts as other cultures. There are just different numbers of continents taught in different cultures. But as a tourist, does anyone from outside the US say "I'm American" when they're asked where they're from? Canadians at least sure as fuck would never say that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent?useskin=vector#Number permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* I read a biography of a Brazilian guy who lived in France during the late 19th century/early 20th century. Everyone in Europe called him an American, and he referred to himself an American when he was contrasting Brazil and France. At one point he went off about how hopeful he was about new plane tech coming out, because it would help “unite Americans across our various countries.” However, I think it’s fallen out of fashion to talk this way in recent years, partially because of USA supremacy, which is I think why people are salty about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jif@piefed.ca -1 points 1 week ago (2 children) Nobody is saying it's too confusing. They're saying "stop claiming that word for yourself". Your examples are incorrect. The equivalent would be if France was called The United States of Europe, and used the word Europeans to refer exclusively to themselves. Then, naturally, Germans would stop using the word European to refer to themselves because others would think they were referring to France (The United States of Europe in this example). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago People regularly talk about Europe when they actually mean the EU or the other way around. I think that's the closest there is, and it's also annoying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago The USA is one of the few countries on earth to use a continent name as part of its country name. Yet you don't see too many people saying South Africa should refer to the entire southern part of the continent. People also don't seem to have a problem with using "US", which overlaps with Mexico aka EUM (or USM in English). Like I said, it's mostly a language and cultural divide. Are you advocating that Canadians or Mexicans should say they're American, even if they don't want to? In the English speaking world no one other than the USA says American. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiceBowl@piefed.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (1 child) Probably referring to Mexico’s official name, Estados Unidos Mexicanos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 child) Thanks! I never knew it had a longer official name. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (2 children) People who are adamant about "America is too confusing" are very rarely in agreement with "Afro-Eurasia", such that if someone says "Colombians are American", they're unlikely to say "French people are African" or even "Afro-Eurasian". It's a cultural/language thing, rather than an objective one. There's no reason that (most) English speakers who don't call Peruvians "Americans" are any more incorrect than Peruvians who don't say "Spanish people are Africans" are wrong. But it's become a whole thing on the internet to say that "USians are dumb and wrong" for not having the same language concepts as other cultures. There are just different numbers of continents taught in different cultures. But as a tourist, does anyone from outside the US say "I'm American" when they're asked where they're from? Canadians at least sure as fuck would never say that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent?useskin=vector#Number permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* I read a biography of a Brazilian guy who lived in France during the late 19th century/early 20th century. Everyone in Europe called him an American, and he referred to himself an American when he was contrasting Brazil and France. At one point he went off about how hopeful he was about new plane tech coming out, because it would help “unite Americans across our various countries.” However, I think it’s fallen out of fashion to talk this way in recent years, partially because of USA supremacy, which is I think why people are salty about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jif@piefed.ca -1 points 1 week ago (2 children) Nobody is saying it's too confusing. They're saying "stop claiming that word for yourself". Your examples are incorrect. The equivalent would be if France was called The United States of Europe, and used the word Europeans to refer exclusively to themselves. Then, naturally, Germans would stop using the word European to refer to themselves because others would think they were referring to France (The United States of Europe in this example). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago People regularly talk about Europe when they actually mean the EU or the other way around. I think that's the closest there is, and it's also annoying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago The USA is one of the few countries on earth to use a continent name as part of its country name. Yet you don't see too many people saying South Africa should refer to the entire southern part of the continent. People also don't seem to have a problem with using "US", which overlaps with Mexico aka EUM (or USM in English). Like I said, it's mostly a language and cultural divide. Are you advocating that Canadians or Mexicans should say they're American, even if they don't want to? In the English speaking world no one other than the USA says American. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 child) Thanks! I never knew it had a longer official name. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (2 children) People who are adamant about "America is too confusing" are very rarely in agreement with "Afro-Eurasia", such that if someone says "Colombians are American", they're unlikely to say "French people are African" or even "Afro-Eurasian". It's a cultural/language thing, rather than an objective one. There's no reason that (most) English speakers who don't call Peruvians "Americans" are any more incorrect than Peruvians who don't say "Spanish people are Africans" are wrong. But it's become a whole thing on the internet to say that "USians are dumb and wrong" for not having the same language concepts as other cultures. There are just different numbers of continents taught in different cultures. But as a tourist, does anyone from outside the US say "I'm American" when they're asked where they're from? Canadians at least sure as fuck would never say that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent?useskin=vector#Number permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* I read a biography of a Brazilian guy who lived in France during the late 19th century/early 20th century. Everyone in Europe called him an American, and he referred to himself an American when he was contrasting Brazil and France. At one point he went off about how hopeful he was about new plane tech coming out, because it would help “unite Americans across our various countries.” However, I think it’s fallen out of fashion to talk this way in recent years, partially because of USA supremacy, which is I think why people are salty about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jif@piefed.ca -1 points 1 week ago (2 children) Nobody is saying it's too confusing. They're saying "stop claiming that word for yourself". Your examples are incorrect. The equivalent would be if France was called The United States of Europe, and used the word Europeans to refer exclusively to themselves. Then, naturally, Germans would stop using the word European to refer to themselves because others would think they were referring to France (The United States of Europe in this example). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago People regularly talk about Europe when they actually mean the EU or the other way around. I think that's the closest there is, and it's also annoying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago The USA is one of the few countries on earth to use a continent name as part of its country name. Yet you don't see too many people saying South Africa should refer to the entire southern part of the continent. People also don't seem to have a problem with using "US", which overlaps with Mexico aka EUM (or USM in English). Like I said, it's mostly a language and cultural divide. Are you advocating that Canadians or Mexicans should say they're American, even if they don't want to? In the English speaking world no one other than the USA says American. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (2 children) People who are adamant about "America is too confusing" are very rarely in agreement with "Afro-Eurasia", such that if someone says "Colombians are American", they're unlikely to say "French people are African" or even "Afro-Eurasian". It's a cultural/language thing, rather than an objective one. There's no reason that (most) English speakers who don't call Peruvians "Americans" are any more incorrect than Peruvians who don't say "Spanish people are Africans" are wrong. But it's become a whole thing on the internet to say that "USians are dumb and wrong" for not having the same language concepts as other cultures. There are just different numbers of continents taught in different cultures. But as a tourist, does anyone from outside the US say "I'm American" when they're asked where they're from? Canadians at least sure as fuck would never say that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent?useskin=vector#Number permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* I read a biography of a Brazilian guy who lived in France during the late 19th century/early 20th century. Everyone in Europe called him an American, and he referred to himself an American when he was contrasting Brazil and France. At one point he went off about how hopeful he was about new plane tech coming out, because it would help “unite Americans across our various countries.” However, I think it’s fallen out of fashion to talk this way in recent years, partially because of USA supremacy, which is I think why people are salty about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jif@piefed.ca -1 points 1 week ago (2 children) Nobody is saying it's too confusing. They're saying "stop claiming that word for yourself". Your examples are incorrect. The equivalent would be if France was called The United States of Europe, and used the word Europeans to refer exclusively to themselves. Then, naturally, Germans would stop using the word European to refer to themselves because others would think they were referring to France (The United States of Europe in this example). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago People regularly talk about Europe when they actually mean the EU or the other way around. I think that's the closest there is, and it's also annoying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago The USA is one of the few countries on earth to use a continent name as part of its country name. Yet you don't see too many people saying South Africa should refer to the entire southern part of the continent. People also don't seem to have a problem with using "US", which overlaps with Mexico aka EUM (or USM in English). Like I said, it's mostly a language and cultural divide. Are you advocating that Canadians or Mexicans should say they're American, even if they don't want to? In the English speaking world no one other than the USA says American. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* I read a biography of a Brazilian guy who lived in France during the late 19th century/early 20th century. Everyone in Europe called him an American, and he referred to himself an American when he was contrasting Brazil and France. At one point he went off about how hopeful he was about new plane tech coming out, because it would help “unite Americans across our various countries.” However, I think it’s fallen out of fashion to talk this way in recent years, partially because of USA supremacy, which is I think why people are salty about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jif@piefed.ca -1 points 1 week ago (2 children) Nobody is saying it's too confusing. They're saying "stop claiming that word for yourself". Your examples are incorrect. The equivalent would be if France was called The United States of Europe, and used the word Europeans to refer exclusively to themselves. Then, naturally, Germans would stop using the word European to refer to themselves because others would think they were referring to France (The United States of Europe in this example). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago People regularly talk about Europe when they actually mean the EU or the other way around. I think that's the closest there is, and it's also annoying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago The USA is one of the few countries on earth to use a continent name as part of its country name. Yet you don't see too many people saying South Africa should refer to the entire southern part of the continent. People also don't seem to have a problem with using "US", which overlaps with Mexico aka EUM (or USM in English). Like I said, it's mostly a language and cultural divide. Are you advocating that Canadians or Mexicans should say they're American, even if they don't want to? In the English speaking world no one other than the USA says American. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago People regularly talk about Europe when they actually mean the EU or the other way around. I think that's the closest there is, and it's also annoying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago The USA is one of the few countries on earth to use a continent name as part of its country name. Yet you don't see too many people saying South Africa should refer to the entire southern part of the continent. People also don't seem to have a problem with using "US", which overlaps with Mexico aka EUM (or USM in English). Like I said, it's mostly a language and cultural divide. Are you advocating that Canadians or Mexicans should say they're American, even if they don't want to? In the English speaking world no one other than the USA says American. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] the_fuckler@nord.pub 5 points 1 week ago (1 child) Now why would they be referring to Mexico? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SuperFola@programming.dev -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) America is not just North America you know. It’s a whole ass continent. America isn’t a country, the US is. So when you say America when you actually talk about only the US, it’s as is you were talking about Mexico, Canada, Brazil… as well as the US. Which is… dumb? False? Erroneous? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] the_fuckler@nord.pub 2 points 1 week ago Literally a hate crime 💀 good looking making sure nobody got confused permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SuperFola@programming.dev -2 points 1 week ago (1 child) America is not just North America you know. It’s a whole ass continent. America isn’t a country, the US is. So when you say America when you actually talk about only the US, it’s as is you were talking about Mexico, Canada, Brazil… as well as the US. Which is… dumb? False? Erroneous? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] the_fuckler@nord.pub 2 points 1 week ago Literally a hate crime 💀 good looking making sure nobody got confused permalink fedilink source parent
[–] the_fuckler@nord.pub 2 points 1 week ago Literally a hate crime 💀 good looking making sure nobody got confused permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jif@piefed.ca 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) No idea why you're getting downvoted for this very valid point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nyctre@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) Because it's pedantry. I checked 4 dictionaries for america or american. Or just type "america" on whatever search engine First thing for 3/4 dictionaries was the US or its citizens. If anyone ever means to refer to the continent they usually say north/south America or "the Americas". Go to any country other than the US and ask a local "Are you american?". They're all gonna say the same thing. "No, I'm Mexican/Canadian/Chilean/etc." Whenever a word has multiple meanings, you're supposed to use context to figure out which one is being used. Well, the article title mentions the US government. It's also a very common phrase with a well established meaning. Check out Green day's american idiot, for example. Really doesn't take a genius to understand what op meant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CovertOperative@piefed.zip 0 points 1 week ago (1 child) Check every dictionary for america or american. Or just type "america" on whatever search engine. First thing is always the US or its citizens. Exactly! It's always the first! Let's check the renowned and proud American dictionary Merriam Webster: Oh. Huh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nyctre@piefed.social 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) My apologies, my fault for only checking the first 3 links that my search engine gave me, which were Cambridge, dictionary.com and Collinsdictionary.com And there's also this. . But I guess you got me there. I'll edit my comment to rectify this huge mistake. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nyctre@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) Because it's pedantry. I checked 4 dictionaries for america or american. Or just type "america" on whatever search engine First thing for 3/4 dictionaries was the US or its citizens. If anyone ever means to refer to the continent they usually say north/south America or "the Americas". Go to any country other than the US and ask a local "Are you american?". They're all gonna say the same thing. "No, I'm Mexican/Canadian/Chilean/etc." Whenever a word has multiple meanings, you're supposed to use context to figure out which one is being used. Well, the article title mentions the US government. It's also a very common phrase with a well established meaning. Check out Green day's american idiot, for example. Really doesn't take a genius to understand what op meant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CovertOperative@piefed.zip 0 points 1 week ago (1 child) Check every dictionary for america or american. Or just type "america" on whatever search engine. First thing is always the US or its citizens. Exactly! It's always the first! Let's check the renowned and proud American dictionary Merriam Webster: Oh. Huh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nyctre@piefed.social 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) My apologies, my fault for only checking the first 3 links that my search engine gave me, which were Cambridge, dictionary.com and Collinsdictionary.com And there's also this. . But I guess you got me there. I'll edit my comment to rectify this huge mistake. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CovertOperative@piefed.zip 0 points 1 week ago (1 child) Check every dictionary for america or american. Or just type "america" on whatever search engine. First thing is always the US or its citizens. Exactly! It's always the first! Let's check the renowned and proud American dictionary Merriam Webster: Oh. Huh. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nyctre@piefed.social 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) My apologies, my fault for only checking the first 3 links that my search engine gave me, which were Cambridge, dictionary.com and Collinsdictionary.com And there's also this. . But I guess you got me there. I'll edit my comment to rectify this huge mistake. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nyctre@piefed.social 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) My apologies, my fault for only checking the first 3 links that my search engine gave me, which were Cambridge, dictionary.com and Collinsdictionary.com And there's also this. . But I guess you got me there. I'll edit my comment to rectify this huge mistake. permalink fedilink source parent