▲ 125 ▼ Tankies reaction to Beehaw removing itself from Lemmy -- "When you adopt an anti-communist stance, you pave the way for unhealthy social trends to takeover" also apparently Beehaw are fascists? (sh.itjust.works) submitted 3 years ago by goat@sh.itjust.works [M] to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works 158 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world 30 points 3 years ago (1 child) Shit like this is why I don't get (some of) the LGBTQ community's fascination with communism and tankies. They have proven themselves just as anti-LGBTQ as the fascists. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 35 points 3 years ago (70 children) communism and tankies pick one, because they are not interchangeable. One is antithetical to authoritarianism, and the other seeks nothing but. There is plenty of good reason for LGBTQ+ folks to be attracted to communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 73 child comments replies: [–] MxM111@kbin.social 32 points 3 years ago* Anarcho-communism is antithetical to authoritarianism. But the use of the word today is nearly synonymous with Lenin’s or Bolshevik’s communism (and their further variations by multiple future parties, like Mao-communism), because this was the only flavor that actually existed as ideology in countries where communist parties were/are in power. You my run with your own definition of communism being of a particular flavor, but you will always face people that do not understand you, because the common definition is not that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 26 points 3 years ago The tankies scream real loud that they're communist. So it's pretty easy to get confused. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 20 points 3 years ago (4 children) Absolutely true. There are, however, for some unfathomable reason, queer tankies. That, I do not understand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Infynis@midwest.social 12 points 3 years ago Same type of people as Log Cabin Republicans permalink fedilink source parent [–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) Think of it this way - you're a queer person who has struggled most of your life to feel safe and accepted. Then you meet a community that tells you all transphobes get the firing squad. Suddenly you feel safe, accepted, and like you matter. That emotional contrast is veryy appealing and addicting. Nevermind that in real life, if you were putting people to the firing squads for as little as saying "neopronouns are stupid" will actually just make the majority of people fear and hate the queer community in the long run. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goat@sh.itjust.works [S] 13 points 3 years ago and also in real life the soviet union regularly executed queers permalink fedilink source parent [–] odium@programming.dev 10 points 3 years ago There were also Jews for Hitler. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago Oh yeah, no argument there, just like those log cabin conservatives or whatever, there will always be people who both internalise their own oppression to such a degree, and also have the willingness to step over others to benefit themselves, who will act as "one of the good ones" for the oppressing group, tokens they think will be spared but never are. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (67 replies)
[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 35 points 3 years ago (70 children) communism and tankies pick one, because they are not interchangeable. One is antithetical to authoritarianism, and the other seeks nothing but. There is plenty of good reason for LGBTQ+ folks to be attracted to communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 73 child comments replies: [–] MxM111@kbin.social 32 points 3 years ago* Anarcho-communism is antithetical to authoritarianism. But the use of the word today is nearly synonymous with Lenin’s or Bolshevik’s communism (and their further variations by multiple future parties, like Mao-communism), because this was the only flavor that actually existed as ideology in countries where communist parties were/are in power. You my run with your own definition of communism being of a particular flavor, but you will always face people that do not understand you, because the common definition is not that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 26 points 3 years ago The tankies scream real loud that they're communist. So it's pretty easy to get confused. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 20 points 3 years ago (4 children) Absolutely true. There are, however, for some unfathomable reason, queer tankies. That, I do not understand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Infynis@midwest.social 12 points 3 years ago Same type of people as Log Cabin Republicans permalink fedilink source parent [–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) Think of it this way - you're a queer person who has struggled most of your life to feel safe and accepted. Then you meet a community that tells you all transphobes get the firing squad. Suddenly you feel safe, accepted, and like you matter. That emotional contrast is veryy appealing and addicting. Nevermind that in real life, if you were putting people to the firing squads for as little as saying "neopronouns are stupid" will actually just make the majority of people fear and hate the queer community in the long run. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goat@sh.itjust.works [S] 13 points 3 years ago and also in real life the soviet union regularly executed queers permalink fedilink source parent [–] odium@programming.dev 10 points 3 years ago There were also Jews for Hitler. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago Oh yeah, no argument there, just like those log cabin conservatives or whatever, there will always be people who both internalise their own oppression to such a degree, and also have the willingness to step over others to benefit themselves, who will act as "one of the good ones" for the oppressing group, tokens they think will be spared but never are. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (67 replies)
[–] MxM111@kbin.social 32 points 3 years ago* Anarcho-communism is antithetical to authoritarianism. But the use of the word today is nearly synonymous with Lenin’s or Bolshevik’s communism (and their further variations by multiple future parties, like Mao-communism), because this was the only flavor that actually existed as ideology in countries where communist parties were/are in power. You my run with your own definition of communism being of a particular flavor, but you will always face people that do not understand you, because the common definition is not that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 26 points 3 years ago The tankies scream real loud that they're communist. So it's pretty easy to get confused. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 20 points 3 years ago (4 children) Absolutely true. There are, however, for some unfathomable reason, queer tankies. That, I do not understand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Infynis@midwest.social 12 points 3 years ago Same type of people as Log Cabin Republicans permalink fedilink source parent [–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) Think of it this way - you're a queer person who has struggled most of your life to feel safe and accepted. Then you meet a community that tells you all transphobes get the firing squad. Suddenly you feel safe, accepted, and like you matter. That emotional contrast is veryy appealing and addicting. Nevermind that in real life, if you were putting people to the firing squads for as little as saying "neopronouns are stupid" will actually just make the majority of people fear and hate the queer community in the long run. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goat@sh.itjust.works [S] 13 points 3 years ago and also in real life the soviet union regularly executed queers permalink fedilink source parent [–] odium@programming.dev 10 points 3 years ago There were also Jews for Hitler. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago Oh yeah, no argument there, just like those log cabin conservatives or whatever, there will always be people who both internalise their own oppression to such a degree, and also have the willingness to step over others to benefit themselves, who will act as "one of the good ones" for the oppressing group, tokens they think will be spared but never are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Infynis@midwest.social 12 points 3 years ago Same type of people as Log Cabin Republicans permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) Think of it this way - you're a queer person who has struggled most of your life to feel safe and accepted. Then you meet a community that tells you all transphobes get the firing squad. Suddenly you feel safe, accepted, and like you matter. That emotional contrast is veryy appealing and addicting. Nevermind that in real life, if you were putting people to the firing squads for as little as saying "neopronouns are stupid" will actually just make the majority of people fear and hate the queer community in the long run. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] goat@sh.itjust.works [S] 13 points 3 years ago and also in real life the soviet union regularly executed queers permalink fedilink source parent
[–] goat@sh.itjust.works [S] 13 points 3 years ago and also in real life the soviet union regularly executed queers permalink fedilink source parent
[–] odium@programming.dev 10 points 3 years ago There were also Jews for Hitler. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago Oh yeah, no argument there, just like those log cabin conservatives or whatever, there will always be people who both internalise their own oppression to such a degree, and also have the willingness to step over others to benefit themselves, who will act as "one of the good ones" for the oppressing group, tokens they think will be spared but never are. permalink fedilink source parent
