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"Code was never the hard part" is an insult to all programmers
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Because programmers seemed magical, mythical, able to create insane amount of value by typing a few words onto a screen. You will see this if you just go and look at how any other industries work. Even just using basic shortcuts puts you into like the top 1% of computer users, that’s how inefficient most people are at working.
Because developers are asked to do more work than any other office job. The value you create as a developer is 10x what a product manager does. You can do a product manager’s job, they cannot do yours.
Once again, because programmers are obsessed with efficiency and productivity. Having a book about something doesn’t mean jack though. There are books on how to walk better, that doesn’t mean walking is hard.
These are dumb questions, there are degrees for everything.
People are angry that AI isn’t “following the rules” while simultaneously destroying the planet. People believe the bullshit that LLMs make up and then say “oh, your job was easy the whole time”. No, coding is easy. The rest of it wasn’t. Coding is meaningless without good architecture, good requirements, good UI/UX.
… because the jobs are being taken away and distilled down into just “coding”. How is this hard to understand?
Because business doesn’t (didn’t) care about writing code, they cared about making money. Also the number of bugs has nothing to do with how easy something is. Walking is easy, that doesn’t mean you don’t ever roll your ankle.
Yay! Good questions now! Yeah why do programmers have the only job where they’re quizzed over and over again? Huh, maybe it’s because every other industry thinks the hard part is coding (hence why this focus on coding)!
The output of a programmer is directly visible, the output of pretty much every single other job in software development is not. What, are they going to start measuring how many tickets and meetings your scrum master makes?
Who the fuck ever said implementation is easy. Coding is easy. That’s not implementation. The code has to fucking do something. That thing has to be tested. The sales person probably didn’t gather actual requirements before promising the feature, so whatever the customer thinks they’re getting is definitely not what they’re getting.
You can literally see that actual coding is easy when you understand the requirements by looking at tiny development companies that have made a single product where they give customers enormous power to choose new features. The new features come out incredibly quickly.
Dumb question. It’s hard enough to sell one product, much less 10. Think about any normal software user finding out there are ten ways to do something. Even some programmers hate it, Python claims there’s only one right way to do any given thing.
Yes, they like to talk about the fun part of the job, not the non-fun part. Big surprise. Also turns out they like to optimize that part to make it more and more fun, because it’s become too easy.
You’ve switched the topic. It was about what is hard, not what is important.
No we don’t. This is like saying we need to learn how to adapt when every country has nukes and has started to bomb every country constantly. We need to stop bombing, not learn how to live with it.
So then we definitely should stop using LLMs.
Difference is, those things were an improvement. LLMs are a step backwards.
I love change. I don’t like destroying the planet. It’s even worse when it’s of absolutely no benefit to anyone but billionaires. This isn’t change. This is destruction of the planet.
my argument is that i couldn't code real useful programs myself my whole life, and i tried several times, fail computer science in college etc, and now with claude im actually getting these things built -- and there's a lot of pitfalls a few times i had to tell claude to start over but i guess i feel like a paraplegic who could never walk but now with an accessible car i can actually drive and im sorry that's putting a lot of horse carriage drivers out of business.
and im my IRL circle, a couple of my friends who were great at coding in college and are now master coders, they're not complaining about it at all -- they're able to spin up ten agents at once to do things much faster than they were able to three years ago. they all have startup side businesses now on top of their full time industry job, only possible due to coding AIs helping them get shit done faster.
Let me say this how it sounds to me:
I’m sorry, but just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should. I could do a lot of immoral, unethical, horrible to humanity and nature things and yet I don’t.
I mean the nuke analogy is quite stretched
That doesn't address the climate or jobs question though, both require organizing
Of course organizing was and will always be good for the people