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[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 55 points 1 month ago (14 children) Good. Time for software to be optimized again. permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [+] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago (9 children) Vibe coders will ask the AI to write everything in Rust, memory usage will be reasonably low The people writing everything in Electron are gonna have a fun time with their users though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (8 children) nah some dude got recently covered in press b/c he used an LLM to derive Assembly from C. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (4 children) Huh? C compiles to machine code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (3 children) Yes, but why write C when we can let the LLM write assembly directly? Compilers are unnecessary bloat we don’t have a need for with modern technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 1 point 1 month ago yeah kid replace your systems with LLM written opcode streams completely all you want. regarding the question: for maintain- and portability. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) Putting aside assembly code gets compiled as well, the bottle neck is always validation of these systems. Making the systems more opaque makes the already difficult task of ensuring it works even harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago* Assembly code isn’t ”compiled”. To quote wikipedia: Assembly code is converted into executable machine code by a utility program referred to as an assembler. […] The conversion process is referred to as assembly, as in assembling the source code. The computational step when an assembler is processing a program is called assembly time. My point is that people are already trying to replace compilers with LLMs, and yes, it is stupid as shit, but still real. Also, maybe see if an LLM can help you detect sarcasm without explicit content tagging. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] leanleft@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) low-level compilers can output very ugly-looking assembly. he probably did this and then used LLM to super-optimize it. may be perfomant, but id guess that theres a risk that its unsafe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Who cares about ugly-looking assembly ? No one's gonna actually look at it, that's, like, the whole point of C. And I really doubt the plagiarism machine can somehow do better than a compiler. I'm gonna look this up Edit : is it this one ? https://arxiv.org/html/2505.11480v1 permalink fedilink source parent [–] H1AA6329S@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* I was about to get insulted but I almost closed the lid on the laptop by accident and now have to make sure my cloude still operational on the task I gave it, so I can't be rerouting my attention span resources permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* Half the joke of the AI bubble is how American tech firms prioritized brute force over efficient engineering. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago Truth. I am astounded that games like Crash Bandicoot, Tomb Raider and Abe's Oddysee with their massive sprawling worlds were crammed into such relatively tiny file sizes. Necessity gets results permalink fedilink source parent
[+] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago (9 children) Vibe coders will ask the AI to write everything in Rust, memory usage will be reasonably low The people writing everything in Electron are gonna have a fun time with their users though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (8 children) nah some dude got recently covered in press b/c he used an LLM to derive Assembly from C. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (4 children) Huh? C compiles to machine code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (3 children) Yes, but why write C when we can let the LLM write assembly directly? Compilers are unnecessary bloat we don’t have a need for with modern technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 1 point 1 month ago yeah kid replace your systems with LLM written opcode streams completely all you want. regarding the question: for maintain- and portability. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) Putting aside assembly code gets compiled as well, the bottle neck is always validation of these systems. Making the systems more opaque makes the already difficult task of ensuring it works even harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago* Assembly code isn’t ”compiled”. To quote wikipedia: Assembly code is converted into executable machine code by a utility program referred to as an assembler. […] The conversion process is referred to as assembly, as in assembling the source code. The computational step when an assembler is processing a program is called assembly time. My point is that people are already trying to replace compilers with LLMs, and yes, it is stupid as shit, but still real. Also, maybe see if an LLM can help you detect sarcasm without explicit content tagging. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] leanleft@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) low-level compilers can output very ugly-looking assembly. he probably did this and then used LLM to super-optimize it. may be perfomant, but id guess that theres a risk that its unsafe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Who cares about ugly-looking assembly ? No one's gonna actually look at it, that's, like, the whole point of C. And I really doubt the plagiarism machine can somehow do better than a compiler. I'm gonna look this up Edit : is it this one ? https://arxiv.org/html/2505.11480v1 permalink fedilink source parent [–] H1AA6329S@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* I was about to get insulted but I almost closed the lid on the laptop by accident and now have to make sure my cloude still operational on the task I gave it, so I can't be rerouting my attention span resources permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago (9 children) Vibe coders will ask the AI to write everything in Rust, memory usage will be reasonably low The people writing everything in Electron are gonna have a fun time with their users though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (8 children) nah some dude got recently covered in press b/c he used an LLM to derive Assembly from C. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (4 children) Huh? C compiles to machine code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (3 children) Yes, but why write C when we can let the LLM write assembly directly? Compilers are unnecessary bloat we don’t have a need for with modern technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 1 point 1 month ago yeah kid replace your systems with LLM written opcode streams completely all you want. regarding the question: for maintain- and portability. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) Putting aside assembly code gets compiled as well, the bottle neck is always validation of these systems. Making the systems more opaque makes the already difficult task of ensuring it works even harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago* Assembly code isn’t ”compiled”. To quote wikipedia: Assembly code is converted into executable machine code by a utility program referred to as an assembler. […] The conversion process is referred to as assembly, as in assembling the source code. The computational step when an assembler is processing a program is called assembly time. My point is that people are already trying to replace compilers with LLMs, and yes, it is stupid as shit, but still real. Also, maybe see if an LLM can help you detect sarcasm without explicit content tagging. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] leanleft@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) low-level compilers can output very ugly-looking assembly. he probably did this and then used LLM to super-optimize it. may be perfomant, but id guess that theres a risk that its unsafe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Who cares about ugly-looking assembly ? No one's gonna actually look at it, that's, like, the whole point of C. And I really doubt the plagiarism machine can somehow do better than a compiler. I'm gonna look this up Edit : is it this one ? https://arxiv.org/html/2505.11480v1 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (8 children) nah some dude got recently covered in press b/c he used an LLM to derive Assembly from C. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (4 children) Huh? C compiles to machine code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (3 children) Yes, but why write C when we can let the LLM write assembly directly? Compilers are unnecessary bloat we don’t have a need for with modern technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 1 point 1 month ago yeah kid replace your systems with LLM written opcode streams completely all you want. regarding the question: for maintain- and portability. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) Putting aside assembly code gets compiled as well, the bottle neck is always validation of these systems. Making the systems more opaque makes the already difficult task of ensuring it works even harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago* Assembly code isn’t ”compiled”. To quote wikipedia: Assembly code is converted into executable machine code by a utility program referred to as an assembler. […] The conversion process is referred to as assembly, as in assembling the source code. The computational step when an assembler is processing a program is called assembly time. My point is that people are already trying to replace compilers with LLMs, and yes, it is stupid as shit, but still real. Also, maybe see if an LLM can help you detect sarcasm without explicit content tagging. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] leanleft@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) low-level compilers can output very ugly-looking assembly. he probably did this and then used LLM to super-optimize it. may be perfomant, but id guess that theres a risk that its unsafe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Who cares about ugly-looking assembly ? No one's gonna actually look at it, that's, like, the whole point of C. And I really doubt the plagiarism machine can somehow do better than a compiler. I'm gonna look this up Edit : is it this one ? https://arxiv.org/html/2505.11480v1 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (4 children) Huh? C compiles to machine code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (3 children) Yes, but why write C when we can let the LLM write assembly directly? Compilers are unnecessary bloat we don’t have a need for with modern technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 1 point 1 month ago yeah kid replace your systems with LLM written opcode streams completely all you want. regarding the question: for maintain- and portability. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) Putting aside assembly code gets compiled as well, the bottle neck is always validation of these systems. Making the systems more opaque makes the already difficult task of ensuring it works even harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago* Assembly code isn’t ”compiled”. To quote wikipedia: Assembly code is converted into executable machine code by a utility program referred to as an assembler. […] The conversion process is referred to as assembly, as in assembling the source code. The computational step when an assembler is processing a program is called assembly time. My point is that people are already trying to replace compilers with LLMs, and yes, it is stupid as shit, but still real. Also, maybe see if an LLM can help you detect sarcasm without explicit content tagging. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (3 children) Yes, but why write C when we can let the LLM write assembly directly? Compilers are unnecessary bloat we don’t have a need for with modern technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 1 point 1 month ago yeah kid replace your systems with LLM written opcode streams completely all you want. regarding the question: for maintain- and portability. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) Putting aside assembly code gets compiled as well, the bottle neck is always validation of these systems. Making the systems more opaque makes the already difficult task of ensuring it works even harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago* Assembly code isn’t ”compiled”. To quote wikipedia: Assembly code is converted into executable machine code by a utility program referred to as an assembler. […] The conversion process is referred to as assembly, as in assembling the source code. The computational step when an assembler is processing a program is called assembly time. My point is that people are already trying to replace compilers with LLMs, and yes, it is stupid as shit, but still real. Also, maybe see if an LLM can help you detect sarcasm without explicit content tagging. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 1 point 1 month ago yeah kid replace your systems with LLM written opcode streams completely all you want. regarding the question: for maintain- and portability. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 0 points 1 month ago (1 child) Putting aside assembly code gets compiled as well, the bottle neck is always validation of these systems. Making the systems more opaque makes the already difficult task of ensuring it works even harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago* Assembly code isn’t ”compiled”. To quote wikipedia: Assembly code is converted into executable machine code by a utility program referred to as an assembler. […] The conversion process is referred to as assembly, as in assembling the source code. The computational step when an assembler is processing a program is called assembly time. My point is that people are already trying to replace compilers with LLMs, and yes, it is stupid as shit, but still real. Also, maybe see if an LLM can help you detect sarcasm without explicit content tagging. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago* Assembly code isn’t ”compiled”. To quote wikipedia: Assembly code is converted into executable machine code by a utility program referred to as an assembler. […] The conversion process is referred to as assembly, as in assembling the source code. The computational step when an assembler is processing a program is called assembly time. My point is that people are already trying to replace compilers with LLMs, and yes, it is stupid as shit, but still real. Also, maybe see if an LLM can help you detect sarcasm without explicit content tagging. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leanleft@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) low-level compilers can output very ugly-looking assembly. he probably did this and then used LLM to super-optimize it. may be perfomant, but id guess that theres a risk that its unsafe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Who cares about ugly-looking assembly ? No one's gonna actually look at it, that's, like, the whole point of C. And I really doubt the plagiarism machine can somehow do better than a compiler. I'm gonna look this up Edit : is it this one ? https://arxiv.org/html/2505.11480v1 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Who cares about ugly-looking assembly ? No one's gonna actually look at it, that's, like, the whole point of C. And I really doubt the plagiarism machine can somehow do better than a compiler. I'm gonna look this up Edit : is it this one ? https://arxiv.org/html/2505.11480v1 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] H1AA6329S@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* I was about to get insulted but I almost closed the lid on the laptop by accident and now have to make sure my cloude still operational on the task I gave it, so I can't be rerouting my attention span resources permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* Half the joke of the AI bubble is how American tech firms prioritized brute force over efficient engineering. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago Truth. I am astounded that games like Crash Bandicoot, Tomb Raider and Abe's Oddysee with their massive sprawling worlds were crammed into such relatively tiny file sizes. Necessity gets results permalink fedilink source parent