▲ 26 ▼ Today I learned that, unlike Hollywood depicts it, ancient Troy was not part of the european/hellenic cultural sphere. It was a purely Anatolian indigenous polity, similar to the Hittites (In fact, T… (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 month ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/interestingasfuck@lemmy.world 22 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago (6 children) TIL people still believe ancient Troy existed. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (3 children) Do you live in the pre-Schliemann era? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_the_Iliad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) Nope, its not because Schliemann was a Homer otaku that his discoveries were what he said they were. Guy had a worldview and made the evidence fit it. There are many cities that were looted and rebuilt several times in the ancient world while having large walls. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bourff@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) https://www.britannica.com/place/Hisarlik "...Hisarlık has been largely acknowledged by scholars as the site of historical Troy [...]". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Feel free to read those scholars if you want to be unimpressed. I am unconvinced by the faint evidence. I'll grant them it's more historical than Atlantis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StillAlive@piefed.world 7 points 1 month ago Troy was repeatedly destroyed and rebuilt during its 4000 years of settlement. As a result, nine archaeological layers have been identified at the site, each corresponding to a city built on the ruins of the previous. Archaeologists refer to these layers using Roman numerals, Troy I being the earliest and Troy IX being the latest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy permalink fedilink source parent [–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* We have texts from the period (15th to 12thc. BCE) that discuss a city that the Hittites called Wilusa (Ilios) in a region they called Taruisa (the Troad), and the beef that the Achaeans had with them about it for centuries. The city that we found shows rebuilding something that in the Greek and Roman period that they also named Ilion / Ilium. It's a well established fact that something with that name existed and that it was the object of a centuries long conflict with Greece. It's after the end of the Roman period, when it disappeared, that people into the medieval period started assuming it was never real. Until it was actually found. Don't be a child. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (3 children) Do you live in the pre-Schliemann era? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_the_Iliad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) Nope, its not because Schliemann was a Homer otaku that his discoveries were what he said they were. Guy had a worldview and made the evidence fit it. There are many cities that were looted and rebuilt several times in the ancient world while having large walls. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bourff@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) https://www.britannica.com/place/Hisarlik "...Hisarlık has been largely acknowledged by scholars as the site of historical Troy [...]". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Feel free to read those scholars if you want to be unimpressed. I am unconvinced by the faint evidence. I'll grant them it's more historical than Atlantis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) Nope, its not because Schliemann was a Homer otaku that his discoveries were what he said they were. Guy had a worldview and made the evidence fit it. There are many cities that were looted and rebuilt several times in the ancient world while having large walls. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Bourff@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) https://www.britannica.com/place/Hisarlik "...Hisarlık has been largely acknowledged by scholars as the site of historical Troy [...]". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Feel free to read those scholars if you want to be unimpressed. I am unconvinced by the faint evidence. I'll grant them it's more historical than Atlantis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bourff@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) https://www.britannica.com/place/Hisarlik "...Hisarlık has been largely acknowledged by scholars as the site of historical Troy [...]". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Feel free to read those scholars if you want to be unimpressed. I am unconvinced by the faint evidence. I'll grant them it's more historical than Atlantis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Feel free to read those scholars if you want to be unimpressed. I am unconvinced by the faint evidence. I'll grant them it's more historical than Atlantis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 7 points 1 month ago Troy was repeatedly destroyed and rebuilt during its 4000 years of settlement. As a result, nine archaeological layers have been identified at the site, each corresponding to a city built on the ruins of the previous. Archaeologists refer to these layers using Roman numerals, Troy I being the earliest and Troy IX being the latest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* We have texts from the period (15th to 12thc. BCE) that discuss a city that the Hittites called Wilusa (Ilios) in a region they called Taruisa (the Troad), and the beef that the Achaeans had with them about it for centuries. The city that we found shows rebuilding something that in the Greek and Roman period that they also named Ilion / Ilium. It's a well established fact that something with that name existed and that it was the object of a centuries long conflict with Greece. It's after the end of the Roman period, when it disappeared, that people into the medieval period started assuming it was never real. Until it was actually found. Don't be a child. permalink fedilink source parent