▲ 1127 ▼ Cory Doctorow: The people who tell you ‘AI is changing everything’ are lying (www.thenerve.news) submitted 1 month ago by floofloof@lemmy.ca to c/technology@lemmy.world 451 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (7 children) So it’s a new synonym for algorithm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (4 children) Not quite. Algorithms are definite, you get the same guaranteed output if you give the same input every time. AI is generally more fuzzy logic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (3 children) If it can run on a computer, its an algorithm. Definitionally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) Great, Linux is an algorithm. It might be accurate, but it's also vague enough that it's a pretty useless definition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* I mean, yes. Linux is an algorithm. The programmes called AI are also still algorithms - they're still deterministic, just too much of a tangled mess, too complex, for a anyone too realistically break it down step by step. There are some math problems that cannot be described algorithmically, but because of that they're also non computable. Uh, some thermodynamics and quantum stuff from what I've heard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago That’s my point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] underisk@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago* (1 child) I’d say it’s more like a way to describe a certain kind of algorithm. One that adapts in some way to inputs that defy simple classification. Ultimately you’re probably just safe to replace AI in modern news and internet discussion with LLM or CNN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago I agree with that, but others don’t. And that’s the problem. It’s not a fixed definition. It’s marketing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (4 children) Not quite. Algorithms are definite, you get the same guaranteed output if you give the same input every time. AI is generally more fuzzy logic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (3 children) If it can run on a computer, its an algorithm. Definitionally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) Great, Linux is an algorithm. It might be accurate, but it's also vague enough that it's a pretty useless definition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* I mean, yes. Linux is an algorithm. The programmes called AI are also still algorithms - they're still deterministic, just too much of a tangled mess, too complex, for a anyone too realistically break it down step by step. There are some math problems that cannot be described algorithmically, but because of that they're also non computable. Uh, some thermodynamics and quantum stuff from what I've heard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago That’s my point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (3 children) If it can run on a computer, its an algorithm. Definitionally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) Great, Linux is an algorithm. It might be accurate, but it's also vague enough that it's a pretty useless definition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* I mean, yes. Linux is an algorithm. The programmes called AI are also still algorithms - they're still deterministic, just too much of a tangled mess, too complex, for a anyone too realistically break it down step by step. There are some math problems that cannot be described algorithmically, but because of that they're also non computable. Uh, some thermodynamics and quantum stuff from what I've heard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago That’s my point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) Great, Linux is an algorithm. It might be accurate, but it's also vague enough that it's a pretty useless definition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* I mean, yes. Linux is an algorithm. The programmes called AI are also still algorithms - they're still deterministic, just too much of a tangled mess, too complex, for a anyone too realistically break it down step by step. There are some math problems that cannot be described algorithmically, but because of that they're also non computable. Uh, some thermodynamics and quantum stuff from what I've heard. permalink fedilink source parent [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago That’s my point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* I mean, yes. Linux is an algorithm. The programmes called AI are also still algorithms - they're still deterministic, just too much of a tangled mess, too complex, for a anyone too realistically break it down step by step. There are some math problems that cannot be described algorithmically, but because of that they're also non computable. Uh, some thermodynamics and quantum stuff from what I've heard. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago That’s my point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago* (1 child) I’d say it’s more like a way to describe a certain kind of algorithm. One that adapts in some way to inputs that defy simple classification. Ultimately you’re probably just safe to replace AI in modern news and internet discussion with LLM or CNN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago I agree with that, but others don’t. And that’s the problem. It’s not a fixed definition. It’s marketing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago I agree with that, but others don’t. And that’s the problem. It’s not a fixed definition. It’s marketing. permalink fedilink source parent