β² 573 βΌ The Jolla phone (thelemmy.club) submitted 3 weeks ago by pewpew@feddit.it to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 92 comments fedilink hide all child comments No thanks, I'd rather use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS Image transcription: buy privacy-first community driven phone look inside closed source OS with no recovery image and outdated dependencies
[β] dan@upvote.au 19 points 3 weeks ago (5 children) The Fairphone can run Linux, can't it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 59 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) But not everything works. One user is regularly posting updates (I think in !linuxphones@lemmy.ca) about getting all devices of their FP to work. They are making progress but it's still tedious work and if they ever lose interest or something happens to them it can be years until someone capable can pick up the torch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] PM_ME_YOUR_BOOBIES@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Man, I just want a pocketable device with Linux on it, with cell Bluetooth wifi gps antennas that can send and receive texts, calls and data. I don't care about individual apps. If services can be reached via a browser, I'm good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago Ubuntu touch has a widr selection of devices that are 90% completed and at the bareminimum do what you want. You don't even need a shitty slow phone. Some of the oneplus phones work and they run on a snapdragon 845-865 which are the golden standard when it comes to emulation and other harder processes. I think the 845's source code got leaked too so often projects will only work for that chip. permalink fedilink source parent [β] albbi@piefed.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago I've been keeping an eye on the Commodore Callback . Looks pretty good. I would just need Android Auto with CoMaps to work and I'll buy it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] dadarobot@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) i really hope fairphone themselves picks it up. it would be incredible if fp7 (or 8, give them time) could be 100% (or close) compatible with linux out of the box. even if it required closed source blobs for like the radios or whatever. they can still ship with the option of regular android to not scare off the normies i put postmarket on my fp5 and it runs pretty damn well. with a little more polish it absolutly could be my daily driver. it is very close. i know its a lot to hope for, but i think faiphone is in a unique position to do this if they ever decided to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BonkTheAnnoyed@piefed.blahaj.zone -1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) I love PMOS, but isn't it AOSP under the hood? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Peter1986C@nord.pub 10 points 3 weeks ago According to Distrowatch and Wikipedia it is based on Alpine Linux. permalink fedilink source parent [β] PrinzKasper@feddit.org 6 points 3 weeks ago My understanding is that pmos is the exception in that it runs "pure" linux, whereas Ubuntu touch and Sailfish OS run Helium as a compatibility layer that allows them to use Android drivers permalink fedilink source parent [β] dadarobot@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago i dont think so... you need waydroid to run android apps. i think its proper linux... permalink fedilink source parent [β] dan@upvote.au 3 points 3 weeks ago Good to know! I haven't been able to try one yet, so I wasn't sure. permalink fedilink source parent [β] gankouskhan@bookwyr.me 12 points 3 weeks ago Its pretty abysmal in the way of hardware security, and software. The gOS team did a deep dive on alternative devices to the pixel. Only device even close to the pixel was Samsung, but well... Samsung hates their consumers it seems and refuses to open their devices. permalink fedilink source parent [β] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 weeks ago I mean it canβ¦ but it's not exactly in the same universe as a somewhat polished user experience permalink fedilink source parent [β] MangoPenguin@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago From what I've seen the various Linux OSes for phones are pretty poor for real use, most features missing, unstable, very poor security, and so on. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 3 weeks ago Yeah. Also PinePhone and Librem Phone. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 59 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) But not everything works. One user is regularly posting updates (I think in !linuxphones@lemmy.ca) about getting all devices of their FP to work. They are making progress but it's still tedious work and if they ever lose interest or something happens to them it can be years until someone capable can pick up the torch. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] PM_ME_YOUR_BOOBIES@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Man, I just want a pocketable device with Linux on it, with cell Bluetooth wifi gps antennas that can send and receive texts, calls and data. I don't care about individual apps. If services can be reached via a browser, I'm good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago Ubuntu touch has a widr selection of devices that are 90% completed and at the bareminimum do what you want. You don't even need a shitty slow phone. Some of the oneplus phones work and they run on a snapdragon 845-865 which are the golden standard when it comes to emulation and other harder processes. I think the 845's source code got leaked too so often projects will only work for that chip. permalink fedilink source parent [β] albbi@piefed.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago I've been keeping an eye on the Commodore Callback . Looks pretty good. I would just need Android Auto with CoMaps to work and I'll buy it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] dadarobot@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) i really hope fairphone themselves picks it up. it would be incredible if fp7 (or 8, give them time) could be 100% (or close) compatible with linux out of the box. even if it required closed source blobs for like the radios or whatever. they can still ship with the option of regular android to not scare off the normies i put postmarket on my fp5 and it runs pretty damn well. with a little more polish it absolutly could be my daily driver. it is very close. i know its a lot to hope for, but i think faiphone is in a unique position to do this if they ever decided to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BonkTheAnnoyed@piefed.blahaj.zone -1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) I love PMOS, but isn't it AOSP under the hood? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Peter1986C@nord.pub 10 points 3 weeks ago According to Distrowatch and Wikipedia it is based on Alpine Linux. permalink fedilink source parent [β] PrinzKasper@feddit.org 6 points 3 weeks ago My understanding is that pmos is the exception in that it runs "pure" linux, whereas Ubuntu touch and Sailfish OS run Helium as a compatibility layer that allows them to use Android drivers permalink fedilink source parent [β] dadarobot@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago i dont think so... you need waydroid to run android apps. i think its proper linux... permalink fedilink source parent [β] dan@upvote.au 3 points 3 weeks ago Good to know! I haven't been able to try one yet, so I wasn't sure. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PM_ME_YOUR_BOOBIES@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Man, I just want a pocketable device with Linux on it, with cell Bluetooth wifi gps antennas that can send and receive texts, calls and data. I don't care about individual apps. If services can be reached via a browser, I'm good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago Ubuntu touch has a widr selection of devices that are 90% completed and at the bareminimum do what you want. You don't even need a shitty slow phone. Some of the oneplus phones work and they run on a snapdragon 845-865 which are the golden standard when it comes to emulation and other harder processes. I think the 845's source code got leaked too so often projects will only work for that chip. permalink fedilink source parent [β] albbi@piefed.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago I've been keeping an eye on the Commodore Callback . Looks pretty good. I would just need Android Auto with CoMaps to work and I'll buy it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago Ubuntu touch has a widr selection of devices that are 90% completed and at the bareminimum do what you want. You don't even need a shitty slow phone. Some of the oneplus phones work and they run on a snapdragon 845-865 which are the golden standard when it comes to emulation and other harder processes. I think the 845's source code got leaked too so often projects will only work for that chip. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] albbi@piefed.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago I've been keeping an eye on the Commodore Callback . Looks pretty good. I would just need Android Auto with CoMaps to work and I'll buy it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] dadarobot@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) i really hope fairphone themselves picks it up. it would be incredible if fp7 (or 8, give them time) could be 100% (or close) compatible with linux out of the box. even if it required closed source blobs for like the radios or whatever. they can still ship with the option of regular android to not scare off the normies i put postmarket on my fp5 and it runs pretty damn well. with a little more polish it absolutly could be my daily driver. it is very close. i know its a lot to hope for, but i think faiphone is in a unique position to do this if they ever decided to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BonkTheAnnoyed@piefed.blahaj.zone -1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) I love PMOS, but isn't it AOSP under the hood? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Peter1986C@nord.pub 10 points 3 weeks ago According to Distrowatch and Wikipedia it is based on Alpine Linux. permalink fedilink source parent [β] PrinzKasper@feddit.org 6 points 3 weeks ago My understanding is that pmos is the exception in that it runs "pure" linux, whereas Ubuntu touch and Sailfish OS run Helium as a compatibility layer that allows them to use Android drivers permalink fedilink source parent [β] dadarobot@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago i dont think so... you need waydroid to run android apps. i think its proper linux... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] BonkTheAnnoyed@piefed.blahaj.zone -1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) I love PMOS, but isn't it AOSP under the hood? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Peter1986C@nord.pub 10 points 3 weeks ago According to Distrowatch and Wikipedia it is based on Alpine Linux. permalink fedilink source parent [β] PrinzKasper@feddit.org 6 points 3 weeks ago My understanding is that pmos is the exception in that it runs "pure" linux, whereas Ubuntu touch and Sailfish OS run Helium as a compatibility layer that allows them to use Android drivers permalink fedilink source parent [β] dadarobot@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago i dont think so... you need waydroid to run android apps. i think its proper linux... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Peter1986C@nord.pub 10 points 3 weeks ago According to Distrowatch and Wikipedia it is based on Alpine Linux. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PrinzKasper@feddit.org 6 points 3 weeks ago My understanding is that pmos is the exception in that it runs "pure" linux, whereas Ubuntu touch and Sailfish OS run Helium as a compatibility layer that allows them to use Android drivers permalink fedilink source parent
[β] dadarobot@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago i dont think so... you need waydroid to run android apps. i think its proper linux... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] dan@upvote.au 3 points 3 weeks ago Good to know! I haven't been able to try one yet, so I wasn't sure. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] gankouskhan@bookwyr.me 12 points 3 weeks ago Its pretty abysmal in the way of hardware security, and software. The gOS team did a deep dive on alternative devices to the pixel. Only device even close to the pixel was Samsung, but well... Samsung hates their consumers it seems and refuses to open their devices. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 weeks ago I mean it canβ¦ but it's not exactly in the same universe as a somewhat polished user experience permalink fedilink source parent
[β] MangoPenguin@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago From what I've seen the various Linux OSes for phones are pretty poor for real use, most features missing, unstable, very poor security, and so on. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 3 weeks ago Yeah. Also PinePhone and Librem Phone. permalink fedilink source parent