▲ 1351 ▼ They eliminated cashiers and keep the profits. NY Democrats are fighting back. (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 month ago by VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online to c/workreform@lemmy.world 363 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 month ago (3 children) EU should take note. Unless I'm in a huge hurry I'll wait in the cashier queue, to do my tiny bit to help preserve jobs. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 27 points 1 month ago (4 children) Jobs aren’t something to be preserved, that’s the wrong way of thinking about it. Jobs are a waste of everyone’s time. You’re not saving a job, you’re spending labour. The goal should be to eliminate all jobs. The problem is the link between income and work, that should be eliminated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] diablicja@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago (1 child) Sure, but I cannot eliminate that link. I can, however, queue to the cashier so that they can put food on the table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) There are multiple solutions for poverty, making people dig holes and then fill them back in is not a great one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago yeah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window permalink fedilink source parent [–] Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago Futuristic thinking, I like it but that doesn’t pay the bills now permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 1 point 1 month ago 100% agree with you. our economy is not vegan as long as people are forced to work. people can still work if they want to, that would be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) That’s never going to happen under capitalism though, so until socialism is achieved, I’m going to do the best I can to ensure that my fellow workers have as much access to good paying jobs as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) It’s self-sustaining. They have convinced people that they don’t deserve access to resources unless they perform some meaningless demeaning labour. The job leaves them too exhausted and numb to question the status quo and do something about it. Yet, at the same time the 0.1% who is hoarding all the planet’s resources isn’t scanning any groceries to ‘deserve’ it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yes, which is why organization and political education is so critical, and also why MLs place importance on vanguard parties. The capitalists are never going to give us the time for everyone to realize we can demand better, so those of us who already realize it need to step up and help guide those who don’t. permalink fedilink source parent [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Mm, drag it out as long as you can, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Would you rather everyone be unemployed and destitute while you beg the capitalists to give you money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) I'd rather people be unemployed and not destitute while the capitalists are consigned to the history books. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago Yes, agreed. That’s why I said “until socialism is achieved.” permalink fedilink source parent [–] gabelstapler@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) It's not only the jobs, it's the liability: if you're forgetting to scan a product, you're shoplifting. If the cashier forgets to scan a product it's the shop's problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 month ago I have inadvertently failed to scan some small item that was in a fold of the bag a couple of times. permalink fedilink source parent [–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Same. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 27 points 1 month ago (4 children) Jobs aren’t something to be preserved, that’s the wrong way of thinking about it. Jobs are a waste of everyone’s time. You’re not saving a job, you’re spending labour. The goal should be to eliminate all jobs. The problem is the link between income and work, that should be eliminated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] diablicja@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago (1 child) Sure, but I cannot eliminate that link. I can, however, queue to the cashier so that they can put food on the table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) There are multiple solutions for poverty, making people dig holes and then fill them back in is not a great one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago yeah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window permalink fedilink source parent [–] Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago Futuristic thinking, I like it but that doesn’t pay the bills now permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 1 point 1 month ago 100% agree with you. our economy is not vegan as long as people are forced to work. people can still work if they want to, that would be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) That’s never going to happen under capitalism though, so until socialism is achieved, I’m going to do the best I can to ensure that my fellow workers have as much access to good paying jobs as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) It’s self-sustaining. They have convinced people that they don’t deserve access to resources unless they perform some meaningless demeaning labour. The job leaves them too exhausted and numb to question the status quo and do something about it. Yet, at the same time the 0.1% who is hoarding all the planet’s resources isn’t scanning any groceries to ‘deserve’ it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yes, which is why organization and political education is so critical, and also why MLs place importance on vanguard parties. The capitalists are never going to give us the time for everyone to realize we can demand better, so those of us who already realize it need to step up and help guide those who don’t. permalink fedilink source parent [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Mm, drag it out as long as you can, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Would you rather everyone be unemployed and destitute while you beg the capitalists to give you money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) I'd rather people be unemployed and not destitute while the capitalists are consigned to the history books. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago Yes, agreed. That’s why I said “until socialism is achieved.” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] diablicja@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago (1 child) Sure, but I cannot eliminate that link. I can, however, queue to the cashier so that they can put food on the table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) There are multiple solutions for poverty, making people dig holes and then fill them back in is not a great one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago yeah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) There are multiple solutions for poverty, making people dig holes and then fill them back in is not a great one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago yeah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago yeah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago Futuristic thinking, I like it but that doesn’t pay the bills now permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 1 point 1 month ago 100% agree with you. our economy is not vegan as long as people are forced to work. people can still work if they want to, that would be vegan. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) That’s never going to happen under capitalism though, so until socialism is achieved, I’m going to do the best I can to ensure that my fellow workers have as much access to good paying jobs as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) It’s self-sustaining. They have convinced people that they don’t deserve access to resources unless they perform some meaningless demeaning labour. The job leaves them too exhausted and numb to question the status quo and do something about it. Yet, at the same time the 0.1% who is hoarding all the planet’s resources isn’t scanning any groceries to ‘deserve’ it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yes, which is why organization and political education is so critical, and also why MLs place importance on vanguard parties. The capitalists are never going to give us the time for everyone to realize we can demand better, so those of us who already realize it need to step up and help guide those who don’t. permalink fedilink source parent [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Mm, drag it out as long as you can, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Would you rather everyone be unemployed and destitute while you beg the capitalists to give you money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) I'd rather people be unemployed and not destitute while the capitalists are consigned to the history books. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago Yes, agreed. That’s why I said “until socialism is achieved.” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) It’s self-sustaining. They have convinced people that they don’t deserve access to resources unless they perform some meaningless demeaning labour. The job leaves them too exhausted and numb to question the status quo and do something about it. Yet, at the same time the 0.1% who is hoarding all the planet’s resources isn’t scanning any groceries to ‘deserve’ it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yes, which is why organization and political education is so critical, and also why MLs place importance on vanguard parties. The capitalists are never going to give us the time for everyone to realize we can demand better, so those of us who already realize it need to step up and help guide those who don’t. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yes, which is why organization and political education is so critical, and also why MLs place importance on vanguard parties. The capitalists are never going to give us the time for everyone to realize we can demand better, so those of us who already realize it need to step up and help guide those who don’t. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Mm, drag it out as long as you can, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Would you rather everyone be unemployed and destitute while you beg the capitalists to give you money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) I'd rather people be unemployed and not destitute while the capitalists are consigned to the history books. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago Yes, agreed. That’s why I said “until socialism is achieved.” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Would you rather everyone be unemployed and destitute while you beg the capitalists to give you money? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) I'd rather people be unemployed and not destitute while the capitalists are consigned to the history books. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago Yes, agreed. That’s why I said “until socialism is achieved.” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) I'd rather people be unemployed and not destitute while the capitalists are consigned to the history books. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago Yes, agreed. That’s why I said “until socialism is achieved.” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago Yes, agreed. That’s why I said “until socialism is achieved.” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gabelstapler@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) It's not only the jobs, it's the liability: if you're forgetting to scan a product, you're shoplifting. If the cashier forgets to scan a product it's the shop's problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 month ago I have inadvertently failed to scan some small item that was in a fold of the bag a couple of times. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 month ago I have inadvertently failed to scan some small item that was in a fold of the bag a couple of times. permalink fedilink source parent