DudleyMason comments on Anger

[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

That's not reality and never has been.

But it could be, and anyone who learns that it's not reality and has any reaction other than "well why the fuck not?" and a determination to make that the reality by any means necessary isn't a good or even neutral person.

Your complacency is actually a bigger problem than the greed of the people benefitting directly from the world's injustices.

The only appropriate or morally acceptable reaction to seeing injustice is to resolve to stop it by any means necessary.

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[–] GalacticRobot@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

In the 100,000 years of humanity it hasn't been and you suddenly are the bright one who thinks it will change because 'it could be'?

So in your mind causing further injustice to stop an injustice is morally acceptable? You said any means necessary.

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[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

In the 100,000 years of humanity it hasn't been

In the 100,000 years of humanity it has been, most of that time. In the 8000 years of the existence of domination systems we've been moving away from that ideal and not towards it, and for the 300 years capitalism has existed we've been sprinting away from it like it was an apex predator, but it was the norm up until fairly recently on the scale of human evolution. There were even a few generations between the invention of the ox-driven plow and the waves of kurgan invasions where people likely got to enjoy the benefits of agriculture and urbanization without the crushing demands of laboring for the good of an oppressor.

So in your mind causing further injustice to stop an injustice is morally acceptable? You said any means necessary.

Punishing the perpetrators of injustice or violently preventing them from doing further injustice is not an injustice, so your entire point makes no sense.

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[–] GalacticRobot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

In the 100,000 years of humanity it has been, most of that time.

Every historian would disagree with you. For almost all of humanity the mass majority lived short brutal lives, and often starved or were flat out killed. Hell, that was if you were the lucky few that survived childhood to begin with.

Domination systems? Seriously? Yes, absolute rulers and domination over the world has worked out so well for humanity.

Capitalism isn't the best system, but like democracy, it's the best until some bright group of monkies come up with a better one that can be implemented.

You could be the first buddy.

And yes, solving injustice with more injustice is the same logic the Nazi's used to kill people they didn't like.

Perhaps you'll grow up, get out of the basement and actually live life, realizing it's a whole lot better than 99% of history has allowed for.

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[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 months ago*

You could have saved everyone some time by just leading with the fact that you haven't opened a history book that wasn't required for school ever in your life and that you uncritically accept everything the billionaire class tells you as fact.

You're arguing against things I never said because I foolishly assumed you to be literate, so I didn't spell out everything like this was a ELI5.

When you understand what Domination Systems are, what the Kurgan Invasions were, and how most humans actually lived in prehistory, come back and read that comment again and see if you can't do better.

And punishing the perpetrators of injustice is still not itself an injustice.

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