▲ 333 ▼ US prosecutors charge Atlanta man after GrapheneOS phone wipes itself during airport search (www.theguardian.com) submitted 1 month ago by beep@piefed.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 65 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1289238/us-prosecutors-charge-atlanta-man-after-grapheneos-phone-wipes-itself-during-airport-sea
[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) This is not the kind of case that goes in front of a jury. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sirdubdee@piefed.social 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Why not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Because it's a question about the constitutionality of whether or not they were within their rights to violate his. This is a question for judges. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sirdubdee@piefed.social 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) Oh I’m talking down the line if this ever gets to a jury trial. Not literally at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago* (1 child) Still not an option because jurors are not supposed to know about jury nullification and lawyers are not allowed in any way shape or form to suggest it. There is in fact a current case in the UK, which is the legal system that the US has based itself on, in regards to a lawyer insinuating jury nullification during their closing remarks. The lawyer is being held in contempt and is now awaiting their own trial for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sirdubdee@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) That’s why it’s important to mention it as much as possible outside of court so potential jurors know it is an option and that they can ignore instructions for the better of the country. It’s why I mentioned it. I’m not a lawyer but I’m not going to say someone is guilty of a crime if the law is being abused. I’d rather let 10 guilty go free than 1 innocent suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago I don't think you understand how much it is that jurors are not allowed to know about jury nullification. If it's found out that they bring it up in the jury deliberations, or mention or even allude to it during the trial, they can be kicked off the jury immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sirdubdee@piefed.social 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Why not? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Because it's a question about the constitutionality of whether or not they were within their rights to violate his. This is a question for judges. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sirdubdee@piefed.social 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) Oh I’m talking down the line if this ever gets to a jury trial. Not literally at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago* (1 child) Still not an option because jurors are not supposed to know about jury nullification and lawyers are not allowed in any way shape or form to suggest it. There is in fact a current case in the UK, which is the legal system that the US has based itself on, in regards to a lawyer insinuating jury nullification during their closing remarks. The lawyer is being held in contempt and is now awaiting their own trial for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sirdubdee@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) That’s why it’s important to mention it as much as possible outside of court so potential jurors know it is an option and that they can ignore instructions for the better of the country. It’s why I mentioned it. I’m not a lawyer but I’m not going to say someone is guilty of a crime if the law is being abused. I’d rather let 10 guilty go free than 1 innocent suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago I don't think you understand how much it is that jurors are not allowed to know about jury nullification. If it's found out that they bring it up in the jury deliberations, or mention or even allude to it during the trial, they can be kicked off the jury immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Because it's a question about the constitutionality of whether or not they were within their rights to violate his. This is a question for judges. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sirdubdee@piefed.social 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) Oh I’m talking down the line if this ever gets to a jury trial. Not literally at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago* (1 child) Still not an option because jurors are not supposed to know about jury nullification and lawyers are not allowed in any way shape or form to suggest it. There is in fact a current case in the UK, which is the legal system that the US has based itself on, in regards to a lawyer insinuating jury nullification during their closing remarks. The lawyer is being held in contempt and is now awaiting their own trial for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sirdubdee@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) That’s why it’s important to mention it as much as possible outside of court so potential jurors know it is an option and that they can ignore instructions for the better of the country. It’s why I mentioned it. I’m not a lawyer but I’m not going to say someone is guilty of a crime if the law is being abused. I’d rather let 10 guilty go free than 1 innocent suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago I don't think you understand how much it is that jurors are not allowed to know about jury nullification. If it's found out that they bring it up in the jury deliberations, or mention or even allude to it during the trial, they can be kicked off the jury immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sirdubdee@piefed.social 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child) Oh I’m talking down the line if this ever gets to a jury trial. Not literally at this point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago* (1 child) Still not an option because jurors are not supposed to know about jury nullification and lawyers are not allowed in any way shape or form to suggest it. There is in fact a current case in the UK, which is the legal system that the US has based itself on, in regards to a lawyer insinuating jury nullification during their closing remarks. The lawyer is being held in contempt and is now awaiting their own trial for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sirdubdee@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) That’s why it’s important to mention it as much as possible outside of court so potential jurors know it is an option and that they can ignore instructions for the better of the country. It’s why I mentioned it. I’m not a lawyer but I’m not going to say someone is guilty of a crime if the law is being abused. I’d rather let 10 guilty go free than 1 innocent suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago I don't think you understand how much it is that jurors are not allowed to know about jury nullification. If it's found out that they bring it up in the jury deliberations, or mention or even allude to it during the trial, they can be kicked off the jury immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago* (1 child) Still not an option because jurors are not supposed to know about jury nullification and lawyers are not allowed in any way shape or form to suggest it. There is in fact a current case in the UK, which is the legal system that the US has based itself on, in regards to a lawyer insinuating jury nullification during their closing remarks. The lawyer is being held in contempt and is now awaiting their own trial for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sirdubdee@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) That’s why it’s important to mention it as much as possible outside of court so potential jurors know it is an option and that they can ignore instructions for the better of the country. It’s why I mentioned it. I’m not a lawyer but I’m not going to say someone is guilty of a crime if the law is being abused. I’d rather let 10 guilty go free than 1 innocent suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago I don't think you understand how much it is that jurors are not allowed to know about jury nullification. If it's found out that they bring it up in the jury deliberations, or mention or even allude to it during the trial, they can be kicked off the jury immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sirdubdee@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) That’s why it’s important to mention it as much as possible outside of court so potential jurors know it is an option and that they can ignore instructions for the better of the country. It’s why I mentioned it. I’m not a lawyer but I’m not going to say someone is guilty of a crime if the law is being abused. I’d rather let 10 guilty go free than 1 innocent suffer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago I don't think you understand how much it is that jurors are not allowed to know about jury nullification. If it's found out that they bring it up in the jury deliberations, or mention or even allude to it during the trial, they can be kicked off the jury immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago I don't think you understand how much it is that jurors are not allowed to know about jury nullification. If it's found out that they bring it up in the jury deliberations, or mention or even allude to it during the trial, they can be kicked off the jury immediately. permalink fedilink source parent