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On Warrior Ethos (thelemmy.club)
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Tumblr user tsarina-anadyomene: it really is quite bad for your military to have an image of itself as a warrior class. what you really want is for your soldiers to think of themselves as boring professionals who will fill out a report form if someone gets a little too warrior ethos out there Tumblr user gsot: [Screenshot of Bluesky user Ruth Baader-Meinhoff @sm-6.bluesky.social: the lesson of WWII is that aesthetic warrior cult societies get their shit rocked by school teachers and store clerks who'd much rather be doing anything else] Tumblr user drmajalis: [Screenshot of Bluesky user William B. Fuckley @opinionhaver.bsky.social: one of the oldest running dialogues in history is "war is a massively complicated political, bureaucratic and logistical endeavour" vs. "fuck you pussy, war is when you're a fucking badass, oh shit I lost"]
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[–] 1 point 1 month ago (8 children)

Because Soviets fought instead of surrendering.

Did they have good leadership? I hear stories about how soldiers had to fight without enough guns or ammo, or they'd be shot by their commanders.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (7 children)

    They did not have Christmas parties with the Nazis unlike the Allies. Wonder why.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    They did not have Christmas parties with the Nazis unlike the Allies. Wonder why.

    Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. Also the Soviets literally invaded Poland opposite of Germany in '39.

    Back to my question about actual battlefield behavior, though: did the Soviet commanders shoot their own troops and send them into fights without enough guns and ammo?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    I see you know nothing about history except spouting propaganda so no need to discuss further. You prefer surrender to the Nazis and joining them like Europe did of course.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    You prefer surrender to the Nazis and joining them like Europe did of course.

    My family left behind died in the resistance. Surrender isn't an option against fascism, imo.

    Europe as a whole resisted the spread of Nazis in WW2, and didn't join them like you're implying. Many died fighting the Axis powers that took over part of Europe. The Axis powers that were also in Europe were defeated.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    did the Soviet commanders shoot their own troops

    Yes, as did every other country during the war. Some more than others, but there wasn't a single country in WWII where officers did not shoot their own soldiers for insubordination.

    and send them into fights without enough guns and ammo?

    No, this is common propaganda pushed by COD and Enemy at the Gates, based on a single officer's report from the Battle of Stalingrad that they did not have enough guns to equip his troops. Conveniently, the second half of the officers report is usually left out, where he states that he is diverting his troop ship to a supply depot to rearm before heading into combat.

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