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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago (15 children) I wish my leader were only an adulterer and cocaine user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 49 points 2 months ago At least her extramarital affairs are with adults. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 11 points 2 months ago* (13 children) We have a different sort of bar here I suppose hah. Then again, she was judged extra hard for being a young woman in that position. But it also genuinely wasn't appropriate behaviour (to be videotaped doing) for a PM. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago (11 children) Nah the appropriateness or lack of it was invented. Worst she's done is join the Tony Blair Institute, just another capitalist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 4 points 2 months ago* (10 children) I don't know what you mean by invented. A lot of people thought partying drunk on video wasn't really appropriate behaviour for the PM. People don't mind (at least as much) if it happens behind closed doors, but Marin unfortunately had shitty enough friends that they posted that stuff online. That sort of stuff eroded a lot of respect for her and it was already an uphill battle since she was a young woman, she had to fight double as hard as a middle aged man in her position would've had to. I didn't really mind her partying and stuff, but it was just a bad look. Her fooling the voters later on was much worse imo than just being drunk on camera. That later thing really soured me on her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago* (9 children) I mean how you said she was judged extra hard for being a young woman in that position none of the topics, breakfast, dancing, etc were issues in any other case. Yeah younger generations live with phones and might have stupid friends. It's not a national crisis without being forced to be one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 2 months ago (8 children) It would've been a scandal with any pm if you have a drunken party on video, with the accusations of drugs and extramarital affairs. She just got it harder because she was a young woman pm. But it's wasn't a thing just because of that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (7 children) Meh, there's currently a bigger scandal with less effects permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago (6 children) The parliament was convened during summer break for a special session to vote on whether the government still has the confidence of the parliament. That's pretty big. And it's been the main topic in news for a while now. And it's not like the corruption investigation and the ripples from that are over. Marin got shit from those videos and accusations, but it didn't really become a huge parliamentary deal same way as this corruption case has. Tbf they're two very different sort of scandals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) both are in a sense trumpian/post-truth. the current one being swept under the rug and pretending nothing happened, and the marin case pretending something more happened than did permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) This corruption case has had a parliamentary vote about confidence in the government during the summer break in a special session and has been by far the biggest thing in the news for a while now, being talked about constantly. And the thing isn't even over yet... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) it has been a show for show's sake. a vote with a majority coalition doesn't really matter until they start to vote against each other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I'm just talking about it being swept under the rug. Parliamentary vote on confidence of government and an investigation by the chancellor of justice is as much as you'd expect from most of these, most of the time. And as far as media goes, being the top news by far for however long this has been going on is the highest that can really go. Some would definitely want to sweep it under the rug but that hasn't happened. Far from it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) sure, is being actively swept under the rug is different. I guess we'll see if this ever leads to anything concrete (and not just "oh they will get less votes from the public") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago This sort of old boy network corruption revelations rarely leads to much parliamentary or criminal repercussions. This has been a very widely reported on and has done reputational damage to National Coalition and it might be the best result we'll get. There's a chance the chancellor of justice's investigation results in something but we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xav@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago It depends on the culture I guess. It would be less of a problem in France (source : am French). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 49 points 2 months ago At least her extramarital affairs are with adults. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 11 points 2 months ago* (13 children) We have a different sort of bar here I suppose hah. Then again, she was judged extra hard for being a young woman in that position. But it also genuinely wasn't appropriate behaviour (to be videotaped doing) for a PM. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago (11 children) Nah the appropriateness or lack of it was invented. Worst she's done is join the Tony Blair Institute, just another capitalist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 4 points 2 months ago* (10 children) I don't know what you mean by invented. A lot of people thought partying drunk on video wasn't really appropriate behaviour for the PM. People don't mind (at least as much) if it happens behind closed doors, but Marin unfortunately had shitty enough friends that they posted that stuff online. That sort of stuff eroded a lot of respect for her and it was already an uphill battle since she was a young woman, she had to fight double as hard as a middle aged man in her position would've had to. I didn't really mind her partying and stuff, but it was just a bad look. Her fooling the voters later on was much worse imo than just being drunk on camera. That later thing really soured me on her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago* (9 children) I mean how you said she was judged extra hard for being a young woman in that position none of the topics, breakfast, dancing, etc were issues in any other case. Yeah younger generations live with phones and might have stupid friends. It's not a national crisis without being forced to be one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 2 months ago (8 children) It would've been a scandal with any pm if you have a drunken party on video, with the accusations of drugs and extramarital affairs. She just got it harder because she was a young woman pm. But it's wasn't a thing just because of that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (7 children) Meh, there's currently a bigger scandal with less effects permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago (6 children) The parliament was convened during summer break for a special session to vote on whether the government still has the confidence of the parliament. That's pretty big. And it's been the main topic in news for a while now. And it's not like the corruption investigation and the ripples from that are over. Marin got shit from those videos and accusations, but it didn't really become a huge parliamentary deal same way as this corruption case has. Tbf they're two very different sort of scandals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) both are in a sense trumpian/post-truth. the current one being swept under the rug and pretending nothing happened, and the marin case pretending something more happened than did permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) This corruption case has had a parliamentary vote about confidence in the government during the summer break in a special session and has been by far the biggest thing in the news for a while now, being talked about constantly. And the thing isn't even over yet... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) it has been a show for show's sake. a vote with a majority coalition doesn't really matter until they start to vote against each other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I'm just talking about it being swept under the rug. Parliamentary vote on confidence of government and an investigation by the chancellor of justice is as much as you'd expect from most of these, most of the time. And as far as media goes, being the top news by far for however long this has been going on is the highest that can really go. Some would definitely want to sweep it under the rug but that hasn't happened. Far from it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) sure, is being actively swept under the rug is different. I guess we'll see if this ever leads to anything concrete (and not just "oh they will get less votes from the public") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago This sort of old boy network corruption revelations rarely leads to much parliamentary or criminal repercussions. This has been a very widely reported on and has done reputational damage to National Coalition and it might be the best result we'll get. There's a chance the chancellor of justice's investigation results in something but we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xav@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago It depends on the culture I guess. It would be less of a problem in France (source : am French). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago (11 children) Nah the appropriateness or lack of it was invented. Worst she's done is join the Tony Blair Institute, just another capitalist permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 4 points 2 months ago* (10 children) I don't know what you mean by invented. A lot of people thought partying drunk on video wasn't really appropriate behaviour for the PM. People don't mind (at least as much) if it happens behind closed doors, but Marin unfortunately had shitty enough friends that they posted that stuff online. That sort of stuff eroded a lot of respect for her and it was already an uphill battle since she was a young woman, she had to fight double as hard as a middle aged man in her position would've had to. I didn't really mind her partying and stuff, but it was just a bad look. Her fooling the voters later on was much worse imo than just being drunk on camera. That later thing really soured me on her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago* (9 children) I mean how you said she was judged extra hard for being a young woman in that position none of the topics, breakfast, dancing, etc were issues in any other case. Yeah younger generations live with phones and might have stupid friends. It's not a national crisis without being forced to be one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 2 months ago (8 children) It would've been a scandal with any pm if you have a drunken party on video, with the accusations of drugs and extramarital affairs. She just got it harder because she was a young woman pm. But it's wasn't a thing just because of that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (7 children) Meh, there's currently a bigger scandal with less effects permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago (6 children) The parliament was convened during summer break for a special session to vote on whether the government still has the confidence of the parliament. That's pretty big. And it's been the main topic in news for a while now. And it's not like the corruption investigation and the ripples from that are over. Marin got shit from those videos and accusations, but it didn't really become a huge parliamentary deal same way as this corruption case has. Tbf they're two very different sort of scandals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) both are in a sense trumpian/post-truth. the current one being swept under the rug and pretending nothing happened, and the marin case pretending something more happened than did permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) This corruption case has had a parliamentary vote about confidence in the government during the summer break in a special session and has been by far the biggest thing in the news for a while now, being talked about constantly. And the thing isn't even over yet... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) it has been a show for show's sake. a vote with a majority coalition doesn't really matter until they start to vote against each other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I'm just talking about it being swept under the rug. Parliamentary vote on confidence of government and an investigation by the chancellor of justice is as much as you'd expect from most of these, most of the time. And as far as media goes, being the top news by far for however long this has been going on is the highest that can really go. Some would definitely want to sweep it under the rug but that hasn't happened. Far from it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) sure, is being actively swept under the rug is different. I guess we'll see if this ever leads to anything concrete (and not just "oh they will get less votes from the public") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago This sort of old boy network corruption revelations rarely leads to much parliamentary or criminal repercussions. This has been a very widely reported on and has done reputational damage to National Coalition and it might be the best result we'll get. There's a chance the chancellor of justice's investigation results in something but we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 4 points 2 months ago* (10 children) I don't know what you mean by invented. A lot of people thought partying drunk on video wasn't really appropriate behaviour for the PM. People don't mind (at least as much) if it happens behind closed doors, but Marin unfortunately had shitty enough friends that they posted that stuff online. That sort of stuff eroded a lot of respect for her and it was already an uphill battle since she was a young woman, she had to fight double as hard as a middle aged man in her position would've had to. I didn't really mind her partying and stuff, but it was just a bad look. Her fooling the voters later on was much worse imo than just being drunk on camera. That later thing really soured me on her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago* (9 children) I mean how you said she was judged extra hard for being a young woman in that position none of the topics, breakfast, dancing, etc were issues in any other case. Yeah younger generations live with phones and might have stupid friends. It's not a national crisis without being forced to be one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 2 months ago (8 children) It would've been a scandal with any pm if you have a drunken party on video, with the accusations of drugs and extramarital affairs. She just got it harder because she was a young woman pm. But it's wasn't a thing just because of that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (7 children) Meh, there's currently a bigger scandal with less effects permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago (6 children) The parliament was convened during summer break for a special session to vote on whether the government still has the confidence of the parliament. That's pretty big. And it's been the main topic in news for a while now. And it's not like the corruption investigation and the ripples from that are over. Marin got shit from those videos and accusations, but it didn't really become a huge parliamentary deal same way as this corruption case has. Tbf they're two very different sort of scandals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) both are in a sense trumpian/post-truth. the current one being swept under the rug and pretending nothing happened, and the marin case pretending something more happened than did permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) This corruption case has had a parliamentary vote about confidence in the government during the summer break in a special session and has been by far the biggest thing in the news for a while now, being talked about constantly. And the thing isn't even over yet... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) it has been a show for show's sake. a vote with a majority coalition doesn't really matter until they start to vote against each other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I'm just talking about it being swept under the rug. Parliamentary vote on confidence of government and an investigation by the chancellor of justice is as much as you'd expect from most of these, most of the time. And as far as media goes, being the top news by far for however long this has been going on is the highest that can really go. Some would definitely want to sweep it under the rug but that hasn't happened. Far from it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) sure, is being actively swept under the rug is different. I guess we'll see if this ever leads to anything concrete (and not just "oh they will get less votes from the public") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago This sort of old boy network corruption revelations rarely leads to much parliamentary or criminal repercussions. This has been a very widely reported on and has done reputational damage to National Coalition and it might be the best result we'll get. There's a chance the chancellor of justice's investigation results in something but we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago* (9 children) I mean how you said she was judged extra hard for being a young woman in that position none of the topics, breakfast, dancing, etc were issues in any other case. Yeah younger generations live with phones and might have stupid friends. It's not a national crisis without being forced to be one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 2 months ago (8 children) It would've been a scandal with any pm if you have a drunken party on video, with the accusations of drugs and extramarital affairs. She just got it harder because she was a young woman pm. But it's wasn't a thing just because of that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (7 children) Meh, there's currently a bigger scandal with less effects permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago (6 children) The parliament was convened during summer break for a special session to vote on whether the government still has the confidence of the parliament. That's pretty big. And it's been the main topic in news for a while now. And it's not like the corruption investigation and the ripples from that are over. Marin got shit from those videos and accusations, but it didn't really become a huge parliamentary deal same way as this corruption case has. Tbf they're two very different sort of scandals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) both are in a sense trumpian/post-truth. the current one being swept under the rug and pretending nothing happened, and the marin case pretending something more happened than did permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) This corruption case has had a parliamentary vote about confidence in the government during the summer break in a special session and has been by far the biggest thing in the news for a while now, being talked about constantly. And the thing isn't even over yet... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) it has been a show for show's sake. a vote with a majority coalition doesn't really matter until they start to vote against each other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I'm just talking about it being swept under the rug. Parliamentary vote on confidence of government and an investigation by the chancellor of justice is as much as you'd expect from most of these, most of the time. And as far as media goes, being the top news by far for however long this has been going on is the highest that can really go. Some would definitely want to sweep it under the rug but that hasn't happened. Far from it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) sure, is being actively swept under the rug is different. I guess we'll see if this ever leads to anything concrete (and not just "oh they will get less votes from the public") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago This sort of old boy network corruption revelations rarely leads to much parliamentary or criminal repercussions. This has been a very widely reported on and has done reputational damage to National Coalition and it might be the best result we'll get. There's a chance the chancellor of justice's investigation results in something but we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 3 points 2 months ago (8 children) It would've been a scandal with any pm if you have a drunken party on video, with the accusations of drugs and extramarital affairs. She just got it harder because she was a young woman pm. But it's wasn't a thing just because of that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (7 children) Meh, there's currently a bigger scandal with less effects permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago (6 children) The parliament was convened during summer break for a special session to vote on whether the government still has the confidence of the parliament. That's pretty big. And it's been the main topic in news for a while now. And it's not like the corruption investigation and the ripples from that are over. Marin got shit from those videos and accusations, but it didn't really become a huge parliamentary deal same way as this corruption case has. Tbf they're two very different sort of scandals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) both are in a sense trumpian/post-truth. the current one being swept under the rug and pretending nothing happened, and the marin case pretending something more happened than did permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) This corruption case has had a parliamentary vote about confidence in the government during the summer break in a special session and has been by far the biggest thing in the news for a while now, being talked about constantly. And the thing isn't even over yet... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) it has been a show for show's sake. a vote with a majority coalition doesn't really matter until they start to vote against each other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I'm just talking about it being swept under the rug. Parliamentary vote on confidence of government and an investigation by the chancellor of justice is as much as you'd expect from most of these, most of the time. And as far as media goes, being the top news by far for however long this has been going on is the highest that can really go. Some would definitely want to sweep it under the rug but that hasn't happened. Far from it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) sure, is being actively swept under the rug is different. I guess we'll see if this ever leads to anything concrete (and not just "oh they will get less votes from the public") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago This sort of old boy network corruption revelations rarely leads to much parliamentary or criminal repercussions. This has been a very widely reported on and has done reputational damage to National Coalition and it might be the best result we'll get. There's a chance the chancellor of justice's investigation results in something but we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (7 children) Meh, there's currently a bigger scandal with less effects permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago (6 children) The parliament was convened during summer break for a special session to vote on whether the government still has the confidence of the parliament. That's pretty big. And it's been the main topic in news for a while now. And it's not like the corruption investigation and the ripples from that are over. Marin got shit from those videos and accusations, but it didn't really become a huge parliamentary deal same way as this corruption case has. Tbf they're two very different sort of scandals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) both are in a sense trumpian/post-truth. the current one being swept under the rug and pretending nothing happened, and the marin case pretending something more happened than did permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) This corruption case has had a parliamentary vote about confidence in the government during the summer break in a special session and has been by far the biggest thing in the news for a while now, being talked about constantly. And the thing isn't even over yet... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) it has been a show for show's sake. a vote with a majority coalition doesn't really matter until they start to vote against each other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I'm just talking about it being swept under the rug. Parliamentary vote on confidence of government and an investigation by the chancellor of justice is as much as you'd expect from most of these, most of the time. And as far as media goes, being the top news by far for however long this has been going on is the highest that can really go. Some would definitely want to sweep it under the rug but that hasn't happened. Far from it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) sure, is being actively swept under the rug is different. I guess we'll see if this ever leads to anything concrete (and not just "oh they will get less votes from the public") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago This sort of old boy network corruption revelations rarely leads to much parliamentary or criminal repercussions. This has been a very widely reported on and has done reputational damage to National Coalition and it might be the best result we'll get. There's a chance the chancellor of justice's investigation results in something but we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago (6 children) The parliament was convened during summer break for a special session to vote on whether the government still has the confidence of the parliament. That's pretty big. And it's been the main topic in news for a while now. And it's not like the corruption investigation and the ripples from that are over. Marin got shit from those videos and accusations, but it didn't really become a huge parliamentary deal same way as this corruption case has. Tbf they're two very different sort of scandals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) both are in a sense trumpian/post-truth. the current one being swept under the rug and pretending nothing happened, and the marin case pretending something more happened than did permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) This corruption case has had a parliamentary vote about confidence in the government during the summer break in a special session and has been by far the biggest thing in the news for a while now, being talked about constantly. And the thing isn't even over yet... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) it has been a show for show's sake. a vote with a majority coalition doesn't really matter until they start to vote against each other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I'm just talking about it being swept under the rug. Parliamentary vote on confidence of government and an investigation by the chancellor of justice is as much as you'd expect from most of these, most of the time. And as far as media goes, being the top news by far for however long this has been going on is the highest that can really go. Some would definitely want to sweep it under the rug but that hasn't happened. Far from it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) sure, is being actively swept under the rug is different. I guess we'll see if this ever leads to anything concrete (and not just "oh they will get less votes from the public") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago This sort of old boy network corruption revelations rarely leads to much parliamentary or criminal repercussions. This has been a very widely reported on and has done reputational damage to National Coalition and it might be the best result we'll get. There's a chance the chancellor of justice's investigation results in something but we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (5 children) both are in a sense trumpian/post-truth. the current one being swept under the rug and pretending nothing happened, and the marin case pretending something more happened than did permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) This corruption case has had a parliamentary vote about confidence in the government during the summer break in a special session and has been by far the biggest thing in the news for a while now, being talked about constantly. And the thing isn't even over yet... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) it has been a show for show's sake. a vote with a majority coalition doesn't really matter until they start to vote against each other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I'm just talking about it being swept under the rug. Parliamentary vote on confidence of government and an investigation by the chancellor of justice is as much as you'd expect from most of these, most of the time. And as far as media goes, being the top news by far for however long this has been going on is the highest that can really go. Some would definitely want to sweep it under the rug but that hasn't happened. Far from it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) sure, is being actively swept under the rug is different. I guess we'll see if this ever leads to anything concrete (and not just "oh they will get less votes from the public") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago This sort of old boy network corruption revelations rarely leads to much parliamentary or criminal repercussions. This has been a very widely reported on and has done reputational damage to National Coalition and it might be the best result we'll get. There's a chance the chancellor of justice's investigation results in something but we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) This corruption case has had a parliamentary vote about confidence in the government during the summer break in a special session and has been by far the biggest thing in the news for a while now, being talked about constantly. And the thing isn't even over yet... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) it has been a show for show's sake. a vote with a majority coalition doesn't really matter until they start to vote against each other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I'm just talking about it being swept under the rug. Parliamentary vote on confidence of government and an investigation by the chancellor of justice is as much as you'd expect from most of these, most of the time. And as far as media goes, being the top news by far for however long this has been going on is the highest that can really go. Some would definitely want to sweep it under the rug but that hasn't happened. Far from it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) sure, is being actively swept under the rug is different. I guess we'll see if this ever leads to anything concrete (and not just "oh they will get less votes from the public") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago This sort of old boy network corruption revelations rarely leads to much parliamentary or criminal repercussions. This has been a very widely reported on and has done reputational damage to National Coalition and it might be the best result we'll get. There's a chance the chancellor of justice's investigation results in something but we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (3 children) it has been a show for show's sake. a vote with a majority coalition doesn't really matter until they start to vote against each other permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I'm just talking about it being swept under the rug. Parliamentary vote on confidence of government and an investigation by the chancellor of justice is as much as you'd expect from most of these, most of the time. And as far as media goes, being the top news by far for however long this has been going on is the highest that can really go. Some would definitely want to sweep it under the rug but that hasn't happened. Far from it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) sure, is being actively swept under the rug is different. I guess we'll see if this ever leads to anything concrete (and not just "oh they will get less votes from the public") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago This sort of old boy network corruption revelations rarely leads to much parliamentary or criminal repercussions. This has been a very widely reported on and has done reputational damage to National Coalition and it might be the best result we'll get. There's a chance the chancellor of justice's investigation results in something but we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) I'm just talking about it being swept under the rug. Parliamentary vote on confidence of government and an investigation by the chancellor of justice is as much as you'd expect from most of these, most of the time. And as far as media goes, being the top news by far for however long this has been going on is the highest that can really go. Some would definitely want to sweep it under the rug but that hasn't happened. Far from it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) sure, is being actively swept under the rug is different. I guess we'll see if this ever leads to anything concrete (and not just "oh they will get less votes from the public") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago This sort of old boy network corruption revelations rarely leads to much parliamentary or criminal repercussions. This has been a very widely reported on and has done reputational damage to National Coalition and it might be the best result we'll get. There's a chance the chancellor of justice's investigation results in something but we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) sure, is being actively swept under the rug is different. I guess we'll see if this ever leads to anything concrete (and not just "oh they will get less votes from the public") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago This sort of old boy network corruption revelations rarely leads to much parliamentary or criminal repercussions. This has been a very widely reported on and has done reputational damage to National Coalition and it might be the best result we'll get. There's a chance the chancellor of justice's investigation results in something but we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 2 points 2 months ago This sort of old boy network corruption revelations rarely leads to much parliamentary or criminal repercussions. This has been a very widely reported on and has done reputational damage to National Coalition and it might be the best result we'll get. There's a chance the chancellor of justice's investigation results in something but we'll see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xav@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago It depends on the culture I guess. It would be less of a problem in France (source : am French). permalink fedilink source parent