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On Warrior Ethos (thelemmy.club)
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Tumblr user tsarina-anadyomene: it really is quite bad for your military to have an image of itself as a warrior class. what you really want is for your soldiers to think of themselves as boring professionals who will fill out a report form if someone gets a little too warrior ethos out there Tumblr user gsot: [Screenshot of Bluesky user Ruth Baader-Meinhoff @sm-6.bluesky.social: the lesson of WWII is that aesthetic warrior cult societies get their shit rocked by school teachers and store clerks who'd much rather be doing anything else] Tumblr user drmajalis: [Screenshot of Bluesky user William B. Fuckley @opinionhaver.bsky.social: one of the oldest running dialogues in history is "war is a massively complicated political, bureaucratic and logistical endeavour" vs. "fuck you pussy, war is when you're a fucking badass, oh shit I lost"]
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[–] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Considering how poorly US soldiers perform compared to the other nations—just look how consistently they lose war games too—they really should drop the act. The US military is a tech military and the warriors are just users looking for work and benefits in a difficult society.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    This is also a leadership problem.

    The us military ran a massive wargame in 2002, and blue team got curbstomped by a red teamer who designed his strategy around what Iran would be able to do: shutting down shipping, avoiding sigint (using messengers on motorcycles to carry orders, for example), having a highly distributed and resilient command structure, using small speedboats to sneak in and damage American vessels who got too close.

    The military said "boo not fair you're supposed to let us blow you all up".

    Remarkably predictive all in all.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    It's also a problem with wargames in general. Since no one is dieing and there's no real stakes, it's more of a way for officers to show off their plans. If someone wins, but does it by deviating from the plan it makes the officers look bad. When there's actual lives on the line, winning starts looking better than how you won.

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