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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I’ve heard people try to claim the garden of eden is a memory of the green sahara, but that’s not provable.

Early civilizations were routinely centered around lush green river valleys, with political strife forcing dissidents out into the dry and sterile periphery. So, I wouldn't say it's a memory of a green Sahara so much as a cycle of cultivation and degradation that has informed human storytelling for millennia.

"Eden" could just as easily be the Indus Valley in modern-day Pakistan. Or the Fertile Crescent of Iraq/Iran. Or the Göbekli Tepe of southeast Turkiye. Or the Nile Delta. Or the modern-day Gaza Strip. Or the rich soils along the slopes of Mount Kenya. Or the bountiful soil of Ukraine. Or yadda yadda yadda.

Maybe all of these places, with migrating peoples constantly looking for the next Promised Land of Fruit and Honey, settling for a time, and being uprooted again.

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago

Yeah for sure, that's all possible. Or eden could just be an idealized dream of an agricultural society and not a historical memory at all.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Well, it's metaphorically one way or another. I don't think there was a big tree with magic apples and talking snakes in any of these places.

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

Sure yep, that also seems unlikely 😆

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