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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.org to c/degoogle@lemmy.ml

Ive been using google's services since 2017-2018, now its time to finally depart from that. I just got it in the mail yesterday and I'm already in love with it. So much lighter and easier to carry than my samsung galaxy. Gonna transfer everything over in a sim card, switch to Tmobile and ill be good to go. 😁

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[-] ChristchurchAsshole@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If I had a job I'd buy a One Plus direct from China and put LineageOS on it. I don't need to relock the bootloader since my phone is mainly for browsing and text/calls (no important private stuff). I don't even log into Lemmy on my phone because the PC experience is superior.

Recently I got rid of WhatsApp (now fully deleted my account) plus I removed Signal. My battery life is incredible now. I don't even fast-charge cos I'm too poor and my phone doesn't support any worth-while fast charger anyway! Next step is to get LineageOS and get rid of Google Play Services. Even more performance and battery saving.

[-] mal3oon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Lots of caveats there. To preface, most active rom development used to take place on forums, mainly XDA. Nowadays it's on telegram, which is gated unfortunately, so lot's of knowledge get lost.

First, you NEED to be able to unlock your bootloader to be able to install custom ROMs. Here is a source

Back to hardware, recent chinese bought Xiaomi are nearly impossible to unlock bootloader without paying a 3rd party. EU/Global ones can be unlocked, but it's a hassle (waiting 30 days + need to have windows). That makes finding device tree for them hard let alone, finding ROMs.

Oneplus unfortunately is getting worse. Op13 onwards has hardware ARB (which Will brick your device). OP15 onwards has a bit complex way to unlock bootloader.

If you buy it from China, it must be ColorOS version otherwise, you won't be able to unlock the bootloader. Even with COS, you need to install an app to get an unlock token from their server to allow you to unlock the bootloader (this for now, takes 24 hrs max, but this might change and could be like Xiaomi). The Global/EU ones, are fine for now.

Remember you need to have the device tree (basically all the recipes for the hardware of the device to get it to work with other ROMs). Google used to publish this for Pixels, that's why it used to be easy to build ROMs for Pixel. This has changed recently.

So it's getting gloomy for Android devices. I just wish Fairphone would actually follow their "eco" mission, and become the new Pixels. On the other hand Jolla seems to be following up with a no compromise "Linux". Time will tell.

[-] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

To preface, most active rom development used to take place on forums, mainly XDA. Nowadays it’s on telegram, which is gated unfortunately

That user said "LineageOS", not "black sky project andromeda void to infinitum nanogapps safetynet bypass v pizde optimized custom kernel gambling android read only memory: gold bar edition".

bootloader lock sux

True.

[-] Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.org 2 points 2 days ago

Thank you for saying this. Yes, its getting way harder and its not easy finding an older phone to install these ROMs. Even with what's going on with how Google is reacting with Graphene OS. They are slowly locking y'all out of the Pixels, and AOSP dropped support of the Pixels with Android 16.

(This is one example) The latest update to the Pixel 10 camera is locking out Graphene OS users cause it needs Play Services in order to work

[-] mal3oon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Gcam builds are still a thing. But you need to lurk on forums/telegram to find the right one. It's sad this is a thing nowadays for pixel.

[-] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

(This is one example) The latest update to the Pixel 10 camera is locking out Graphene OS users cause it needs Play Services in order to work

i've installed https://f-droid.org/packages/net.sourceforge.opencamera on my partners grapheneOS/Pixel. (Which is not only more private but also more customisable)

Does the update lock camera access or just the default app for the camera?

[-] Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.org 1 points 2 days ago

https://www.androidauthority.com/grapheneos-pixel-camera-app-3609484/

it has to do with the camera app. If you want to use it, you wouls have to install an older version. But honestly just use a different app if thats the case.

[-] ChristchurchAsshole@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Putting a custom OS on a phone is like trying to install Linux in 2004. Out of curiosity I had been looking at some phones here in New Zealand, available on Trade Me (our Ebay, basically) and some of those phones had a note that there was no guarantee that the boot loader could be unlocked :/

[-] madthumbs@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago
[-] Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.org 3 points 2 days ago

Unless your into jailbreaking, don't get an iPhone. Also, as an ex-iphone user, its SUPER hard to get out of their ecosystem.

[-] mal3oon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

While iphone is more privacy friendluly than OEM android, it's much more restricted. You can do amazing things with AOSP Android (compile arm busybox, have a linux toolchain on it, host adblocking), and most importantly totally breakaway from big tech, much more than iphones.

[-] BrickEater@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

... Because its an Iphone? What kind of question is that?

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

It's extrmely easy to degoogle xiaomi phones too, but they're a bit more expensive.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

my xiaomi has been a pain in the ass. i need a phone number to request an unlock from xiaomi, but none of the us carriers will let it on the network anymore; or at least long enough to let it have a number that i can use for xiaomi registration.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Dang that's unfortunate. I thought t-mobile and atnt network bring your own phone type services will work, as long as they provide a microsim or esim.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

It used to work, but T-Mobile made a huge update to thier blacklist and it was clear that it was targeted at Chinese branded phones, but not the ones that share hardware w other brands like Oppo.

[-] Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.org 4 points 3 days ago

That was actually my first choice I was gonna do as well. I got myself the Nord N200 5g but I unfortunately received the wrong model from Back Market. I returned it and ended up getting this phone for less of a headache to try to find the exact model of a phone in order to install LineageOS. That's my only problem with them.

[-] ChristchurchAsshole@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Back Market? You don't just order off the One Plus website and ship anywhere in the world?

[-] Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.org 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

For the US Market, the only phones they have that are available online and even in store are the 15 and 15R.(Really expensive phones BTW) If you want any other model, you gotta go to either Amazon, Back Market, or Best Buy (sometimes you can get an older model from here).

The models for OnePlus are very limited, it used to never be like that.

[-] ChristchurchAsshole@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

The NSA does not want Americans to be under Chinese surveillance? Is that it :)

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

the american carriers are pre-complying rather than having to be told; they've seen how much doing so benefited the telecom provider's bottom lines in the decades prior w things like the patriot act so they're tripping over themselves to get their share from the epstein oligarchy.

they've turned the nicest phones i've had in a long time into the most expensive paperweight i've ever had because of it.

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