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Researchers find a way to reliably spot AI writing (arxiv.org)
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Abstract page for arXiv paper 2604.03136: StoryScope: Investigating idiosyncrasies in AI fiction

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Okay so what I'm taking away from this is that you were lucky to find gainful employment without proof of a degree and didn't have any debt to pay off? Because the context here is people having all the debt and none of the credentials required for jobs where they make enough to pay off that debt. If your card is declined, how you feel about it doesn't matter.

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    I had student loans, luckily they only amounted to 4-5 months' gross income - lucky because scholarships stepped up and I only had to take a loan for one year instead of all six.

    none of the credentials required for jobs

    I got news for you: you can have all the credentials in the world available from the best Universities, and when a place isn't hiring, they aren't hiring. I've gone job hunting in Melbourne Florida after Columbia burnt up on re-entry, the entire town wasn't hiring - that's not about me, they weren't hiring anyone.

    I interviewed in Manhattan with a fresh Honors degree from a good school, the employment agents there dumped all over me about how worthless I was, until... I wandered into an office where the interviewer had a glass table, she looked down through it and saw my shoes were freshly shined, my silk tie was bright red ($2 from a street vendor), and I had a goofy-trendy $50 haircut that was in-style, she gushed: "oh, I know exactly who will hire you: Kidder Peabody, you'll so fit right in." She barely glanced at my resume' "you do computer stuff, right? Yeah, they're always looking for more computer guys, they're just gonna love you!" Transcripts were never mentioned.

    After .com hit, any remotely computer related degree, straight out of school was a ticket to more than double what I made starting out with the best computer degree for .com, those kids left school making more than my boss with 25 years experience was making 5 years' earlier.

    Market gets saturated, hiring stops again. It's different in different fields, but still much the same: cycles. Personal referrals beat the HR screening circus. The place I work today, I had applied to 4 times in the previous 15 years, HR never even called me back. Personal referral got me a work from home spot at a company this company ended up buying, since they bought me I bypassed the HR filters. Once I was past the HR filters they offered my an 8 month salary signing bonus to stay with them at least 1 year, my base pay has increased faster than inflation for 12 years straight now, and the annual bonus runs about 2 months salary.

    I'm not revealing any useful "secrets" here... truth is: the system sucks, when it's not blowing chunks. But, that's the world - and trust me when I tell you: academics A) don't know everything about how the rest of the world works, and B) what they do know they tend to distort for their students in various ways, for various reasons.

    Any rant against academia this long deserves this link: https://rmst202.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2022/04/illich_deschooling-society.pdf

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    I had student loans, luckily they only amounted to 4-5 months' gross income - lucky because scholarships stepped up and I only had to take a loan for one year instead of all six.

    Still more than you should have had (education shouldn't put you in debt imo), but definitely far less than other people have. Particularly people studying in the last few years. .com is long gone, prices have gone up and the margin between net income and cost of living is slim for many people.

    That's my whole point: you shouldn't downplay the impact that being thrown out can have if you've got $50k in student loan debt. If you cheated, sure, that's on you. But if you were falsely accused by a detector that turns up false positives for one or two students per class, on average, that just sucks like an open window in space.

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    the impact that being thrown out can have if you’ve got $50k in student loan debt.

    In today's world, that puts you in good company of other student loan sufferers who aren't actually deadbeats, but instead victims of an economic pincer movement between rising tuition costs and falling employment opportunities.

    During the 4 years I was in undergraduate, my University doubled tuition, the last year literally cost twice as much as the first one. They "managed" the situation by giving lots of scholarships which made the impact negligible to current students, but those quickly faded away. We as the student body literally marched and protested against it - this was the very beginning of the US federally backed student loan program and universities all over the country were ramping up tuition levels to take advantage of the "extra funding" that was becoming available to new high school graduates through that program. It was an obvious blatant cash grab putting our generation in debt for the very same education that our predecessors got for less than half the cost. Various "peace dividends" of the collapse of the USSR masked the problem until the collapse of .com as you note.

    War Games with Matthew Broderick summed it up: the only way to win is not to play. https://rmst202.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2022/04/illich_deschooling-society.pdf

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