▲ 288 ▼ Cheap Chinese chips could offer way out of RAM price crisis, Apple suggests (www.networkworld.com) submitted 2 months ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/technology@lemmy.world 43 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 16 points 2 months ago (10 children) Supply rises to meet demand, driving competition permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 months ago (9 children) Except you don't start a dram company overnight... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 18 points 2 months ago (4 children) Well yeah, but the price is so high because the big 3 refuse to meet the demand so CXMT selling ram is also going to force the hand of the big 3 unless they're okay with CXMT just gobbling up the market. It won't happen overnight but if the AI deals are to be believed CXMT has years to scale up production because the big 3 will have their docks stuck in the AI pot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (3 children) You can't just scale up production on a whim, where do you get the litography machines from? ASML... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (2 children) China makes their own I believe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Well not they dont (or its like ddr1) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cheesorist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago lmao, they do, its not as advanced as asml but they got good enough lithography machines to make gpus. they have ram covered. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EonNShadow@pawb.social 11 points 2 months ago That's the thing, the companies already exist, there are just import restrictions on them because China permalink fedilink source parent [–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) But you could use it for slower access solid state, and then set that up as virtual memory. Youd be swapping like crazy but itd be so cheap compared to the same amount of real ram. I think this might work for many people just browsing the web. Maybe even games permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DamnianWayne@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago You could also just download more RAM permalink fedilink source parent [–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 point 2 months ago I didn't say it'd be overnight. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 months ago (9 children) Except you don't start a dram company overnight... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 18 points 2 months ago (4 children) Well yeah, but the price is so high because the big 3 refuse to meet the demand so CXMT selling ram is also going to force the hand of the big 3 unless they're okay with CXMT just gobbling up the market. It won't happen overnight but if the AI deals are to be believed CXMT has years to scale up production because the big 3 will have their docks stuck in the AI pot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (3 children) You can't just scale up production on a whim, where do you get the litography machines from? ASML... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (2 children) China makes their own I believe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Well not they dont (or its like ddr1) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cheesorist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago lmao, they do, its not as advanced as asml but they got good enough lithography machines to make gpus. they have ram covered. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EonNShadow@pawb.social 11 points 2 months ago That's the thing, the companies already exist, there are just import restrictions on them because China permalink fedilink source parent [–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) But you could use it for slower access solid state, and then set that up as virtual memory. Youd be swapping like crazy but itd be so cheap compared to the same amount of real ram. I think this might work for many people just browsing the web. Maybe even games permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DamnianWayne@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago You could also just download more RAM permalink fedilink source parent [–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 point 2 months ago I didn't say it'd be overnight. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 18 points 2 months ago (4 children) Well yeah, but the price is so high because the big 3 refuse to meet the demand so CXMT selling ram is also going to force the hand of the big 3 unless they're okay with CXMT just gobbling up the market. It won't happen overnight but if the AI deals are to be believed CXMT has years to scale up production because the big 3 will have their docks stuck in the AI pot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (3 children) You can't just scale up production on a whim, where do you get the litography machines from? ASML... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (2 children) China makes their own I believe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Well not they dont (or its like ddr1) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cheesorist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago lmao, they do, its not as advanced as asml but they got good enough lithography machines to make gpus. they have ram covered. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (3 children) You can't just scale up production on a whim, where do you get the litography machines from? ASML... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (2 children) China makes their own I believe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Well not they dont (or its like ddr1) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cheesorist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago lmao, they do, its not as advanced as asml but they got good enough lithography machines to make gpus. they have ram covered. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (2 children) China makes their own I believe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Well not they dont (or its like ddr1) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cheesorist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago lmao, they do, its not as advanced as asml but they got good enough lithography machines to make gpus. they have ram covered. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Well not they dont (or its like ddr1) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cheesorist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago lmao, they do, its not as advanced as asml but they got good enough lithography machines to make gpus. they have ram covered. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cheesorist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago lmao, they do, its not as advanced as asml but they got good enough lithography machines to make gpus. they have ram covered. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EonNShadow@pawb.social 11 points 2 months ago That's the thing, the companies already exist, there are just import restrictions on them because China permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) But you could use it for slower access solid state, and then set that up as virtual memory. Youd be swapping like crazy but itd be so cheap compared to the same amount of real ram. I think this might work for many people just browsing the web. Maybe even games permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DamnianWayne@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago You could also just download more RAM permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DamnianWayne@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago You could also just download more RAM permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 point 2 months ago I didn't say it'd be overnight. permalink fedilink source parent